Selling McIntosh on Audiogon....is it me or? And thank you Ivan!

[djcxxx]

I always sell at fire sale prices (50-70% below retail) and I sell quickly. People generally know what trade-in values from dealers run and they expect to buy at that level or less. Worst scenario is to try selling new gear bought from dealer only a few months after purchase. I only sell older gear I’ve forgotten the purchase price!

[FRO]

I have found this last 12 months or so, it's been a terrible market to sell high $ components.
Didn't use to be this way.

[For The Love of Music]

Originally Posted by FRO

I have found this last 12 months or so, it's been a terrible market to sell high $ components.
Didn't use to be this way.

Maybe the audiophiles went through a bulk of their final upgrades on the pre listened to market and are settling down?

If the case, my prediction for the not so popular brands will be looking at 60% - 70% of retail, and trade in at 10% on top of it delivering 20% - 30%. Perhaps this will ripple onto new gear prices making it harder all the way around.

[Charles]

As far as I'm concerned the minute a piece goes into the "back seat" and into a home system it becomes second hand, if it started "new" or a demo. I don't want it.

I get top dollar because my dealer installs all my equipment, everything. I never touch it except to turn it off/on. When the time comes to trade, they have reliable buyers that know what they are getting when it comes from me.

Every used piece comes with a significant unknown history. The more expensive and complex the more likely it is to break. That's why Mac holds its value: it sound great, looks great, is inexpensive compared to a lot of gear and is very reliable for resale.

[FRO]

Originally Posted by Charles

I never touch it except to turn it off/on. When the time comes to trade, they have reliable buyers that know what they are getting when it comes from me.

Charles -
No offense, but what fun is that as a hobby??

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Originally Posted by Charles

As far as I'm concerned

[Charles]

Originally Posted by FRO

Charles -
No offense, but what fun is that as a hobby??

Sorry, I deleted the quote because for some reason it did not immediately register as usual. The post you see is the second post. But to answer your question. I didn't always do it this way. I was much more hands on, doing all my unpacking, re-packing, hooking up everything, etc. I know how to do all this in my sleep. But I'm older now and have a finicky back. If I lift anything, it can hurt for months.

When my XVX was installed, initially the settings were wrong on several modules. I discovered the mistakes and had them immediately corrected. So I'm hands on when needed but my knees and back aren't what they used to be.

I also carefully check everything the dealer does. I take nothing for granted. When you have been doing this as long as I have, well, there is such a thing as "scut work". It's an old medical term. I make sure I have everything I'm supposed to have and the dealer carries zero away, he's not supposed to. Perfect example is the casters that comes with Wilson speakers. You need to know where all your ancillary stuff is. Five years later things may not be so "clear".

[FreddieFerric]

I sold a pair of Musical Fidelity amps on A'gon a couple of years ago. At first the buyer was trying to talk me into a trade which I had no interest in. Eventually he came back with a cash offer that I accepted. Not as much as I had hoped, but enough to get me to say yes.

[McGuyDLF]

I've been lucky on Agon and USAM, I see what others are selling for and price accordingly. I of course received low ball offers and i'm never offended, you never know how low someone will go. And it usually took me a month or so to get what I wanted price-wise. Ebay has always worked fine but I usually try to wait until ebay offers a $10 max seller fee - it's not often but they do come up. Sold my C47 that way, save a lot of cash on that one.