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Ken.......One of the things I noticed different between the Cremona and the Cremona M, besides the M grill difference, is the mid-driver has been moved closer to the tweeter on the M. In fact the mid-driver surround cuts into a portion of the tweeter surround to bring the drivers physically closer. I have no idea how this impacts the sound, just something I noticed.
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Ken.......The Cremona M mid-driver is even closer to the tweeter, as in no space between the driver frames as shown in your photo. Obviouly this is one of the design changes between the Cremona and the Cremona M. Why Sonus Faber made this design change, and how it influences the Cremona M's sound I can't say. I have never listened to the Cremona M.
SF Cremona M
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Ken.......With a little searching I have found some additional differences in the Cremona and the Cremona M besides the location of the mid-driver and tweeter, and the grill shape..
This is an excert from Love at First Listen, March 4th, 2009 -- by Neil Gader. Source: The Absolute Sound Sumiko’s John Hunter, North American distributor of Sonus Faber, summarized in one word the critical evolution from Cremona to Cremona M: drivers. Most important is the Scanspeak-derived midrange (used in the Elipsa), which Hunter feels defines the character of the new speaker. He explained that this transducer uses “randomized charred wood slivers that are amended into the paper-drawing process. These tiny wood elements act like tiny diffusers, refracting and re-directing the high frequencies, scattering them in many different directions, and preventing the build-up of resonances on the cone of the driver.” The goal was improved clarity and timing cues, and I can’t argue with the result. Like falling dominoes this change precipitated a tweeter upgrade of the existing ring radiator, which received a larger inner dome, allowing a slightly lower crossover point and avoiding over-driving the new midrange driver. And finally to keep up with the speed of the new midrange and tweeter duet, Sonus added a pair of new magnesium 7" drivers with an aluminum pole piece.
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