MV60SE vs LP66S

[pstrisik]

Originally Posted by ronenash

Interesting, first time I heard someone prefer the Pr11 over the LP125M. I had both and think the LP125M is a significant upgrade. The LP125M SE is in a different league altogether.
What did you find you like more about the Pr11?

The 125's felt more forward. The 11A smoother, just feels right.

[Bugs762]

Originally Posted by Littlebunny

With regard to the original question: I faced a similar dilemma with my MV60SE. I had the capacitor upgrade done, and got greater transparency but it did not alleviate my main concern with the MV60SE, and that was a lack of PRaT. In the end I sold my CJ amp and preamp and went with Line Magnetic.

Littlebunny -

Hopefully you are still checking the board. Sounds like you may be out of the CJ business for the time being.

Wondering if you could elaborate on the MV60SE C1 cap upgrade. Curious to know about the difference you heard after the upgrade and why you decided to sell your amp. You used an acronym "RPaT" that I'm not familiar with? Did you think the upgrade was worth the money verses spending $3,500 on a used LP70S which already has the upgrade?

Best

Bugs

[ronenash]

Originally Posted by pstrisik

The 125's felt more forward. The 11A smoother, just feels right.

I guess its all about system synergy. The LP125 is as far from forward as I have ever had in my system. Soundstage start at the speakers pane and develops way past my front room wall.

[antaresbluespirit]

Originally Posted by Bugs762

Look here.

C1 Capacitor Upgrades

Bugs

Does anyone has experienced these C1capacitor upgrade in the MV60SE...

Raymond

[Bugs762]

Originally Posted by antaresbluespirit

Does anyone has experienced these C1capacitor upgrade in the MV60SE...

Raymond

The only person I know of is Littlebunny and he hasn't responded to the thread. I am pretty sure he sold the amp after the C1 upgrade if that is any help.

Bugs

[antaresbluespirit]

Originally Posted by Bugs762

The only person I know of is Littlebunny and he hasn't responded to the thread. I am pretty sure he sold the amp after the C1 upgrade if that is any help.

Bugs

Thank you Bugs...

I am also sensitive with the PRAT subjective feeling (peace,rythm, and timing) highlighted by Littlebunny.

the PRAT was often used to explain the musical difference of turntable by in the professionnal area.

In the other hand you know the existing controversies between CJ lovers regarding the "new" and the "old" CJ sound

Here is my opinion(pv8 mv60se)

Conrad-Johnson PV8 Preamplifiers reviews - Audioreview.com

Raymond

[g_georgi]

Hi all,

How would you characterize the sound across the frequency band of the stock MV60SE and LP66 compared to the in production Classic 60 with EL34 (non-SE). Would also welcome feedback on soundstage.

I've heard the Classic in store and found it did a lot of things right such as wide instrument separation left-to-right and forward and back and produced a pleasant midrange but lacked a little oomph in the lower frequencies. The pre was a ET3 non-SE.

I don't have any perspective on the MV60SE and LP66 with respect to this.

I realize this is an old thread but my question seemed appropriate here vs starting a new discussion.

[Puma Cat]

My guess is the LP66 would be the best sounding amp of the three; it is latest design and is an extension of the original LP70S, which I use.