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02-07-2018, 08:37 PM
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Wireworld speaker cables and tubes
What is the general consensus among our members on the synergy of WW speaker cables and tube amps?
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Serge Main System: Amplification: Luxman L-590AX Mark II. Luxman D-06u SACD. Roon/Tidal. Bryston BDP-Pi PrimaLuna Dialogue HP EL34 Speakers: Harbeth 30.2 40th Anniversary Headphones: ZMF Auteur Blackwood Headphone Amplification: Audeze Deckard, PrimaLuna Dialogue HP, Luxman L-590AX Mark II, Woo Audio WA6 Source/DAC. Roon/Tidal. 
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02-07-2018, 08:38 PM
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Ivan FLORIDA MX136, MC1.2KW(10) MC2KW(2), MCD1100, MS750(2) MVP881, C1000C/P/T, MPC1500, HT-2 SUBS(2) HT3F(2) WS350(2) XRT2K, XCS2K, XR27(2) XCS350(2) JL GOTHAM SUBS(2) LUMAGEN RADIANCE SCALER, SONY VPH-G90U PROJECTOR, STEWART 120" MOTORIZED SCREEN, CINEMA-TECH SEATING, WIREWORLD PLATINUM CABLES Reference System: ACCUPHASE A250 AMPS, C3850 PRE-AMP, DP950 CD/SACD TRANSPORT, DC950 DIGITAL PROCESSOR, DG-58 DIGITAL EQUALIZER, T1200 FM STEREO TUNER, PS530 POWER SUPPLY, HRS-SXR CUSTOM RACK w/ M3X SHELVES, TAD REFERENCE ONE MK2 LOUDSPEAKERS, WIREWORLD PLATINUM CABLES CAPE COD MX150, MC501(2) MC1.2KW(10) MC2301(2) MR88, MVP881, MCD1100, MDA1000, C1000C/P/T, MPC1500, ESOTERIC K-01X 30th ANNIVERSARY (BLACK) SACD/CD PLAYER, G02-X CLOCK, HT3F(2) XRT2K, XCS2K, XR27(2) JL GOTHAM SUBS(2) JL FATHOM F113 SUBS(4) SOUND ANCHOR STANDS(2) LUMAGEN RADIANCE SCALER, SONY VPH-G90U PROJECTOR, STEWART 120" SCREEN, SONUS FABER STRADIVARI, SILENZIO, FORTRESS SEATING, WIREWORLD PLATINUM CABLES Analog Rig: CLEARAUDIO INNOVATION WOOD, UNIVERSAL ARM w/ Da VINCI' CART, 2nd UNIVERSAL ARM w/ GOLDFINGER STATEMENT CART, HRS-MXR REFERENCE RACK-GLOSS BLACK w/ M3X SHELVES, AESTHETIX RHEA SIG PHONO-PRE, WIREWORLD PLATINUM CABLES Reference System: BURMESTER 911MK3 AMP(3), 088 PRE-AMP, 089 CD PLAYER, 100 PHONO PRE-AMP, 948 POWER CONDITIONER, AVID ACUTUS REFERENCE SP TT, GRAHAM PHANTOM II SUPREME ARM, BENZ MICRO LP-S CART, GRANDIOSO P1/D1 STACK, G01X RUBIDIUM MASTER CLOCK, N05 NETWORK PLAYER, SILENZIO, HRS-SXR CUSTOM RACK w/ M3X SHELVES, SONUS FABER AIDA SPEAKERS, JL FATHOM F113(2) SOUND ANCHOR STANDS(2) PS AUDIO P20, WIREWORLD PLATINUM CABLES Library System: GRANDIOSO M1 MONOBLOCK AMPS, C1 LINESTAGE PRE-AMP, K1 CD/SACD PLAYER, G1 MASTER RUBIDIUM CLOCK, E02 PHONO-PRE, SILENZIO, AERIAL ACOUSTICS 20T V2, AERIAL SW12 SUBS(2), CANTON REF K1, VPI HRX TT w/ SDS POWER SUPPLY, ORTOFON CADENZA BLACK CART, KLAUDIO RCM, SHUNYATA PS8, WIREWORLD PLATINUM CABLES Bryston/Esoteric System: ESOTERIC C02-X PRE-AMP, P-02X TRANSPORT, D02-X DAC, G02-X CLOCK, BRYSTON 28B3 CUBED MONOBLOCK AMPS, BIT-15(2) AMR-DP777-SE DAC, SILENZIO, TAD REFERENCE ONE MK2 LOUDSPEAKERS, QUADRASPIRE RACK, WIREWORLD PLATINUM CABLES Accuphase/Canton System: ACCUPHASE E-650 INTEGRATED, DP750 CD/SACD PLAYER, T1200 FM STEREO TUNER, PS530 POWER SUPPLY, CANTON REF K3, CANTON REF K5, SILENZIO, HRS MXR REFERENCE MAHOGHANY RACK w/ M3X SHELVES, WIREWORLD GOLD CABLES Bryston Active System: BP26 PRE-AMP, MPS2 POWER SUPPLY, BAX-1 CROSSOVER, BDA-3 DAC, BDP-3 PLAYER, BCD-3 CD PLAYER, BIT15(2), MODEL T ACTIVE SPEAKERS, 21B3 CUBED AMPS, SILENZIO, TARGET RACK, WIREWORLD SILVER CABLES
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02-07-2018, 10:36 PM
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Serge Main System: Amplification: Luxman L-590AX Mark II. Luxman D-06u SACD. Roon/Tidal. Bryston BDP-Pi PrimaLuna Dialogue HP EL34 Speakers: Harbeth 30.2 40th Anniversary Headphones: ZMF Auteur Blackwood Headphone Amplification: Audeze Deckard, PrimaLuna Dialogue HP, Luxman L-590AX Mark II, Woo Audio WA6 Source/DAC. Roon/Tidal.
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02-07-2018, 11:00 PM
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Serge.......I am using Wireworld Silver Eclipse speaker cable with my MC2301 amps to a pair of Sonus faber Amati Anniversario speakers. Astonishing detail with no over-emphasis of any part of the frequency spectrum. I have been enjoying them for six and a half years now with no intention to change them for anything else. Read my review here: Wireworld Silver Eclipse speaker cable vs: Kimber 8TC speaker cable.
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Dan  STUDIO - McIntosh C1000C/P, MC2301 (2), MR88, Aurender N10, Esoteric K-01X, Sonos Connect, PurePower 2000, Stillpoints, Furutech Flux 50, Michell Gyro SE, Michell HR Power Supply, SME 309, Ortofon Cadenza Black, Wireworld, Sonus faber Amati Anniversario LIVING ROOM - McIntosh C2300, MC452, MR85, Magnum Dynalab 205, Simaudio MOON Neo 260D-T, Schiit Audio Yggdrasil, Aurender N100H, Micro Seiki DD40, Ortofon Cadenza Blue, Nakamichi BX-300, Sony 60ES DAT, PS Audio P10, Furutech Flux 50, Sonos Connect, Stillpoints, Wireworld, Kimber, PMC EB1i, JL Audio f113 VINTAGE - McIntosh MA230, Tandberg 3011A tuner, Olive 04HD, Sony DTC-59ES DAT, McIntosh 4300V, JBL 4312A
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02-07-2018, 11:14 PM
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 I think the sweet spot for me would be a step down to the Elipse 7 for the Harbeth monitor size speakers. Some similar features such as Octo DNA Helix design with OCC silver-clad copper conductors which should offer me a good balance of copper and some transparency and upper octave air of the silver cladding.
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Serge Main System: Amplification: Luxman L-590AX Mark II. Luxman D-06u SACD. Roon/Tidal. Bryston BDP-Pi PrimaLuna Dialogue HP EL34 Speakers: Harbeth 30.2 40th Anniversary Headphones: ZMF Auteur Blackwood Headphone Amplification: Audeze Deckard, PrimaLuna Dialogue HP, Luxman L-590AX Mark II, Woo Audio WA6 Source/DAC. Roon/Tidal.
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02-08-2018, 12:58 AM
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Serge,
I have WW Silver Eclipse 6 speaker cables running from my PrimaLuna Dialogue Premium Integrated Amp to Thiel CS 2.3 speakers. I have Silver Electra 7 PCs and WW Silver Eclipse and Eclipse ICs. I am very happy with the WW speaker cables (which I could not afford at the time but then Ivan stumbled on a pair with about 200 hours in them that he just could not stand having around the house so I figuredI would help him out). If it makes a difference, my PL has KT120 power tubes with 2 Brimar CV 4003 12AU7 gain tubes. I think the Silver Eclipse are a great match and used ones come up fairly frequently either in the Marketplace or The Cable Company’s “used” website. Who knows? Ivan may have another pair he just can’t stand to have lying around the house!
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Library System Bryston BDP-2-->Bryston BDA-2-->Prima Luna Dialogue Premium Integreted Amp. Oppo BDP-105D. Power: PS Audio P5, WW Silver Electra, WW Aurora. IC: WW Eclipse RCA, WW Equinox RCA. Digital: WW Gold Starlight AES-EBU, WW Platinum Starlight USB Bedroom System (Headphones) Logitech Squeezebox Touch (w Channel Island PS)-->Centrance DX DAC/Amp. Beyerdynamic T5p (Moon-Audio Black Dragon), Audeze LCD-XC, HiFiMan HE-500 Travel Survival Kit Astell & Kern AK120-->Centrance Mini-M8 DAC/Amp and ALO Audio Continental (tube) Amp. Shure se535 Ltd with Moon-Audio Silver Dragon wiring, Beyerdynamic T70P with clear Pilot earpads. Mall Survival Kit (1 wife, 2 daughters: you can only avoid the mall for so long) AK120, iPod Classic 160, iPod Touch 64-->Ray Samuels Audio Shadow Amp. Shure se535Ltd, Monster Cable Copper Turbine Pro, iPad Mini 
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02-08-2018, 01:30 AM
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same here on my C500C C500T preamp excellent
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Dave's Cave main Basement system C500C C500T preamp and a MX150 control center, (3)McIntosh 601 mono block amps, (1)7270 McIntosh amp driving rears in 7.1 (1)Halo A23 amp for side surround, & (1)452 McIntosh amp for main towers part of a bi-amp setup with 601's, Esoteric K-03 JL F212 sub all glued together with mostly all WireWorld & Moon Audio Black Dragon cables. Headphone Rig Audeze LCD-X Sennheiser hd 800 & Sennheiser hd 700 cans, Woo Audio WA-6SE with Sophia Princess & matched pair of 6GL7/6EM tubes Black Dragon Cable upgrades on the HD700s!Streaming Dac Gear includes K03, high-end custom built Toshiba core i7 16 gigs Wireworld Platinum USB cable, Ipad mini & Itouch driving media center 20 for full remote control anywhere on property and even via web to have music on when I get home Also can remote control MX150 via web too.  Analog Rig VPI Classic II running with a Dynavector 20X2-H MC Phono Cartridge Also For living room and outside rear deck is connected to MX150 with (1)Parasound 5250 amp. Oppo 205 , Sony ES777, (1)PPP, and a DirectStream P15 Power Plant Speaker system Builder of custom very high end Dynaudio's 2 Main towers, 1 super tweeter Dynaudio built system above each tower, 4 surrounds all Dynaudio Esoteric drivers 6.5 mids, esoteric dome tweeters, 2 rear surrounds, and a custom 5 speaker 2 7" drivers, 2 3" domes, and a d21 tweeter in the center channel to compliment my 2 300lb custom subs and a JL F212 Misc Build Features AC Power Electrical overview is 4 20 amp 120 circuits all 10-3 wiring extra shielding with walls custom modded with cross bracing 2x6s over a 14" thick concrete with R19 and weather barrier
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02-08-2018, 10:04 AM
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Wireworld speaker cables and tubes
What is your concern between WW SCs and Tube amplifiers? High end roll off?
I can offer a comparison between WW Eclipse and WW Gold Speaker cables. My system at the time consisted of the Strads, C2300 PreAmp and MC2301 amplifiers. Like most changes, I loved the before and when I inserted the Golds, the system took on greater clarity. The Golds lost a coloration the Eclipse added to the midrange, particularly in female voices. It was also noticeable from improved, more realistic decay of cymbals. It was one of my more noticeable and easy to hear system changes.
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Main room - Sonus Faber Stradivari, JLAudio F113v2, McIntosh MC2301s with Stillpoint Ultra SS feet, McIntosh C1100 on Stillpoint Minis, Esoteric K-03X on Stillpoint Minis, Cybershaft Ultimate 2 OP17 on Stillpoint Minis, (Esoteric G-02), SilenZio v.2 Audio by -E- Media Server (running ROON), Other - 2 Stillpoint Apertures, GIK Bass Traps, Vicoustics Waveguide panels, Shunyata Alpha Clock 75 1.5 meter BNC, WW Gold Eclipse 7 SCs, WW Platinum Starlight 7 USB, WW Silver Electra 7 PCs, WW Silver Eclipse ICs; 3 X 20 Amp Power lines, PS Audio P10 & Dectet, 3 Sound Anchor stands, Powerports and numerous Noise Harvesters. Furutech Flex 50, Cable risers, HRS dampeners TV Room Audio - Panasonic TC-P60GT50, McIntosh MX-121, MC7106, Revel F52 & C32, B&W LM1, Sonos Connect\W4S Remedy\iFI 9V Power, WW & Kimber cables, PS Audio Dectet
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02-08-2018, 10:27 AM
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I concur. The Gold 7 speaker cables are worth the investment. Serge, you noticed the significant improvement WW brought to your headphone rig ... it will do the same between your PL and 30.2. Talk to Ivan and go for the Gold! The upgrade bug will never involve speaker cables again .... it’s been said that Gold is 95% of the performance of Platinum by someone who knows the lineup quite well
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Preamp: McIntosh C1100T/C1100C Amp: McIntosh MC601 (3), MC501 (2) Digital: McIntosh D1100, McIntosh MCT450, Meridian 808v6, Aurender N10 8TB, Oppo 203 Analog: McIntosh MT10, Rega RP10 w/ Apheta 2 Signal cables: Wireworld Gold Eclipse 7 speaker cables; Transparent Ref XL (MM2) interconnects Digital cables: Wireworld Platinum 7 Coax, AES/EBU, and USB Power: Shunyata Denali, Alpha HC, Furutech outlets, (3) 20 amp dedicated lines Speakers: Dynaudio Contour 30 Rack: Quadraspire SVT2 with Nordost Sort Fut (6)
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03-20-2018, 03:25 AM
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I used the Silver Eclipse 7 with my Ref75SE and Ref5SE with great results.
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