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Old 09-29-2017, 12:54 AM
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While I realize that the vinyl format is at times a bit noisier, using an ultrasonic RCM makes a huge difference. Plus it is so easy to clean and enjoy the music.
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Old 09-29-2017, 07:44 AM
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I have a nice turntable that use use for critical listening per say. I also have a inexpensive table with a inexpensive needle that I play vinyl that is not pristine.
I really love slot of the old musical that can no longer be found in any other format.
I clean, treat with GruvGlide and enjoy the music.
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Old 09-29-2017, 08:33 AM
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Tim, 54 is young in my book !

Regardless, analog playback is not for all and a lot of the recent folks that have jumped on realize that and some of those that have been on board have lifestyle changes that have altered their original love affair. No big deal, plenty of music to enjoy though other formats ..................
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Old 09-29-2017, 11:33 AM
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Color me frustrated with the results and the with the cost and effort.



Someone talk me away from the vinyl ledge


I enjoy both. I've often wondered if I had taken the money spent on a TT, cart, and accessories and used that to upgrade speakers then I would be ahead of where I am today. The same can be said for my digital source as well.

I do think that vinyl and digital have different sound. Anytime there is a difference, then some will develop a preference. In fact, it is straightforward to tailor your system to optimize either one or the other. For me, I have some music best enjoyed with vinyl and some best enjoyed with digital.

From my perspective it does not have to be an either-or proposition. That's from an old-timer that grew up on vinyl. I then converted to digital because the problems then were as you describe today. However I also get CDs and downloads that sound like crap from time to time.

It sounds from your post that you have a nice vinyl setup and are making really nice digital upgrades. My advice to talk you off the ledge is to get your new digital set up, tweaked to your satisfaction, and just enjoy. Take a "vinyl sabbatical". I'm betting that at some point you'll get the itch to pull out a record and give it a spin. Then you'll be glad you kept your equipment.
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Thank you to all for the comments. Yeah I know I had an overreaction audio moment. It happens from time to time.

Lots of good suggestions. I can't spend the money on an Ultrasonic machine. Honestly I don't have THAT many records. But you guys may be on to something on the VPI cleaner. I read some stuff that the vacuum felt while getting the cleaner off the records might also be leaving residue on it...and I wonder if my anti static dust thingy from Audio quest might be making matters worse. Its carbon fiber. All that is worth a look to see....

Another issue that someone mentioned was the tracking force could be off. Might be. I SO wish there was a VPI dealer nearby to give me a real BOTOX turntable injection and exam to make sure all is good. I watch the online vids and think I have it right but who knows.

The other thing could be as my system has evolved its also much more resolving and revealing than I've ever had. Any flaws or imperfections are clearly audible. With digital as well. Where's my 1990 polk speakers?

Thx again...I'll report back after a little Turntable and cleaning Dr Visit.
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Old 09-29-2017, 12:03 PM
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Gary,
Excellent advice and words of wisdom. I've been in IT for 30+ years and the thought of spending my retirement years chained to a cellphone or iPad to enjoy my music is just flat depressing. The world of 1s and 0s is the gold standard for frustrating human beings. If you enjoy vinyl, then try both before jumping ship completely.
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Soon in the house will be the McIntosh D1100 and Aurender N10. The digital will sound even better than I have now.
Why not go with what makes more sense and sounds best to you and not try to follow the crowd. Just ignore what others say.

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I'm not the first and won't be the last to say that the allure and appeal of the vinyl LP is its expense and ceremonial inconvenience to play.
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I mostly play digital (stream Tidal & NAS but no longer play CDs). I also play LPs from time to time However, playing an LP forces you to forget about the tablet or phone or remote and make you to sit down and enjoy a whole side of uninterrupted music which can feel very liberating and enjoyable.
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I mostly play digital (stream Tidal & NAS but no longer play CDs). I also play LPs from time to time However, playing an LP forces you to forget about the tablet or phone or remote and make you to sit down and enjoy a whole side of uninterrupted music which can feel very liberating and enjoyable.
You mean uninterrupted for a maximum of 22 minutes and that is for someone with the patience and discipline to listen to every track on a 33 1/3 lp. Bless those that can do it.
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