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wow, that sounds cool. Glad they sold out. wonder how many they made?
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Best Charles
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__________________________________________ Charles Updated System: Wilson McIntosh Audioquest Amps: McIntosh: MC3500MKII (2); MC1.25KW (2); MC2.1KW An (1) Preamp: C-12000 An Sources: MCD12000 An; MVP881; MVP851; MR87; Marantz 510LV; ASUS laptop Speakers: Wilson Chronosonic XVX Sub-woofer: Wilson Thor’s Hammer; Wilson ActivXO Stereo Electronic Crossover Cables main system: AQ: WEL Signature speaker cables; 24’ balanced IC; balanced 1-meter Dragon IC ; WEL Signature digital coaxial cable; digital coaxial cable; Diamond optical (2); Diamond USB; Dragon power cords (5 HC cords and 3 source cords); Thunder HC power cord Cables subwoofer system: AQ: Redwood speaker cable; Wolf balanced subwoofer IC; Wind balanced IC from preamp to ActivXO; Hurricane HC (3); Hurricane Source (1); Dragon HC (1) power cords Power conditioners: AQ Niagara 7000 (1); Niagara 5000 (3); (4) dedicated 20-amp lines. Isolation: Wilson Pedestals; Bassocontinuo McIntosh Ultra Feet; X-material plinth Cabinet: Double Custom Woodwork & Design (CWD) Acoustic Treatments: Room and Echo Tunes |
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I think the "problem" with the MC75 is the MC275. I've read plenty of reports (here) that 2X MC75 is the better sounding solution, not disputing that. But with an excellent MC275 and no close competitors, they'd just be cannibalizing themselves for all but the die-hards. Much better from a business perspective to put the resources into something that will get them significant incremental volume
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We all have our favorites that we would like to see reissued. However, it's not going to happen. There are apparently plenty of Mac vintage "small" power amps out there on the market for sale. I have it from a good source that a new MC275 run mono sounds better than run stereo and that if it doesn't the amp needs service. So buy two MC275's. Run them mono and you have much more power than from a MC75 reissue. BTW, I owned two MC75's. They were great amps. It was my biggest mistake that I traded them for a new solid state stereo Mac amp. I am upset with my old dealer to this day for not advising me to to keep these beautiful amps. He eagerly took my amps. I was young and didn't understand their value.
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Whether you consider me "a good source", or not............. I've run one MC275, two MC275s as monoblocks and a pair of MC75s (reissue) and, to my ears there is no comparison. The MC75 pair is superior to the MC275 run as a stereo amp and the the MC275 as a stereo amp is superior to a pair of MC275s run as mono amps. The difference is not huge, but certainly noticeable. Obviously, YMMV, but that is what my ears told me when I was running an MC2200 and McIntosh tube amps. Eventually I'll find a pair of MC75 reissue amps for what I'm willing to spend.
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Perhaps someone else might comment concerning this question whose had experience. There's numerous variables involved. There's the vintage Mac tube sound vs the modern tube sound, etc. But again, I was told definitively that the MC275 vintage or modern was designed to run equally well in mono or stereo but of course you receive the added benefit of twice the power in mono. Many modern speakers require a larger tube amp than a MC75. Best Charles
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I purchased my MC275 MkIV from Gordon Gow's son, Frank Gow (may he RIP) at Audio Classics, along with a C2200. Liked what I heard with the C2200/MC275MkIV, so decided to try two of the MC275s running as monoblocks. Frank told me some folks like them as such and some don't. I fell into the "don't" category. Was using Joseph Audio RM-25XLs and Krell speakers (forgotten the model #) at the time. Had more money then brains, so decided to try an MC2102. Frank warned me that I might not care for it as it was decidedly 'different' from an MC275. We made a deal that I would hold on to the MC275 while I tried the MC2102. He was right. The MC2102 went back after a bit of tube-rolling could not fix what was wrong. About a year later Frank called to alert me to the reissue MC75, which he had on hold for me (if I wanted). I gave them a try and they were a step up from the single MC275 in stereo. Don't miss the C2200 (the C22 MkV is a most worthy replacement). However, I do miss the reissue MC75 monoblocks and will eventually own another pair. Have made several attempts at 'downsizing' into retirement over the past several years. All have been abject failures. No more of that for me. My plan is to die with the C22 & a pair of MC75s. My wife can bury them with my ashes or sell all and take a great vacation (a better choice then burying). As an aside, my new Devore 0/93 are scheduled for delivery Monday before lunch. I'm doing my best to not be excited.
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But I have to admit that tubes are a different story. I fell in love with the huge solid state amp prematurely. I believe that I have repressed memories of the beautiful Mac vintage tube sound that have been uncovered by experiencing my MC3500's. In my older age I "think" I understand somewhat why folks like you like tubes so much. While typing this reply I am listening to Jazz In the Key of Blue by the Jimmy Cobb Quartet through my 3500's on SACD. It's a different presentation than through my 1.25's from top to bottom. "Huge" is a very strong word that you used but I think I may understand why you used it. When you hear the sound you love anything else pales by comparison. However, I also believe that that it is possible that the sonics my 1.25's provide may be preferred by someone else's ear, although I don't see how. Take a digital master and put it on vinyl and you obtain the vinyl sound. Vinyl has a characteristic sonic signature that many like very much. The same is true I believe for tubes. For me the 3500 has meant rediscovering the sonics of my much younger years and childhood. But I think I'm pretty much a novice when it comes to tubes compared to you. Absolute congrats on your new Devore's. They have received super reviews. I recently went to their website. I'll bet their 4 piece statement system is competitive with anything on the market. Best Charles
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__________________________________________ Charles Updated System: Wilson McIntosh Audioquest Amps: McIntosh: MC3500MKII (2); MC1.25KW (2); MC2.1KW An (1) Preamp: C-12000 An Sources: MCD12000 An; MVP881; MVP851; MR87; Marantz 510LV; ASUS laptop Speakers: Wilson Chronosonic XVX Sub-woofer: Wilson Thor’s Hammer; Wilson ActivXO Stereo Electronic Crossover Cables main system: AQ: WEL Signature speaker cables; 24’ balanced IC; balanced 1-meter Dragon IC ; WEL Signature digital coaxial cable; digital coaxial cable; Diamond optical (2); Diamond USB; Dragon power cords (5 HC cords and 3 source cords); Thunder HC power cord Cables subwoofer system: AQ: Redwood speaker cable; Wolf balanced subwoofer IC; Wind balanced IC from preamp to ActivXO; Hurricane HC (3); Hurricane Source (1); Dragon HC (1) power cords Power conditioners: AQ Niagara 7000 (1); Niagara 5000 (3); (4) dedicated 20-amp lines. Isolation: Wilson Pedestals; Bassocontinuo McIntosh Ultra Feet; X-material plinth Cabinet: Double Custom Woodwork & Design (CWD) Acoustic Treatments: Room and Echo Tunes Last edited by Charles; 06-24-2023 at 12:08 PM. |
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Saw an unboxing video of the ML1 MkIIs, they do look impressive and thumbs up on the retro design IMO.
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