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Caelin, assuming break-in by actual use, do you think 50 hours ought to do it?
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Caelin, assuming break-in by actual use, do you think 50 hours ought to do it?
I will usually rotate to a different outlet each day. The more outlets you have and use - the longer it takes to burn in. I generally like about 5 days of 24/7 burn-in.
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Just out of curiosity, could someone plug a TYPHON into the MPC-12 with a similar degree of effect as HYDRA/TYPHON combo?
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Just out of curiosity, could someone plug a TYPHON into the MPC-12 with a similar degree of effect as HYDRA/TYPHON combo?
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Would a Venom Defender be a useful addition or just superfluous? If a useful addition, would it matter whether plugged into digital or analog side (I would think it would not matter). Thanks!
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Would a Venom Defender be a useful addition or just superfluous? If a useful addition, would it matter whether plugged into digital or analog side (I would think it would not matter). Thanks!
The Venom Defender is designed to reduce noise on a power line or power strip that does not have noise reduction built-in. The MPC-12 has a more advanced noise reduction circuit but similar in design to that in the DEFENDER. This filter reduces noise coming from the power line and from noise generated by the components plugged into the Analog section. The Digital section uses a special hand-wound, air core coil in conjunction with a second filter that isolates the Digital section from the Analog side.

The MPC-12 does not contain as many filters as in the Triton so a VENOM DEFENDER "may" improve performance. If you do add one put it on the Analog side.
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Caelin, thank you very much!
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Caelin,

Can you post some measurements showing the effectiveness of noise filtration of MPC-12 ?

I'm looking for a solution like this for my PC server, and wonder how much noise there is on the AC line and how much can be removed (in other words: judge the effectiveness of your solution).
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Caelin, Can you post some measurements showing the effectiveness of noise filtration of MPC-12 ? I'm looking for a solution like this for my PC server, and wonder how much noise there is on the AC line and how much can be removed (in other words: judge the effectiveness of your solution).
The amount of noise on any specific power line is highly variable from line to line and dependent upon time of day and electrical conditions. Knowing what type and how much noise is on your power circuit can only be known by putting a power quality analyzer on your specific power line. However, all power supplies kick back noise onto the power line and SMPS are particularly noisy.

Our videographer is scheduled for another set of sessions in late spring which is when we will be shooting videos on the MOC-12 and other new products. The MPC-12 uses the same technology that is in the reference Hydra DPC-6. You can watch a video of the noise test for the DOC-6 on YouTube https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=LHXP19fXN60

We use a paper shredder as a noise source since the type of noise (impulse) is similar to what switched mode power supplies generate although the amplitude of noise is far higher. This makes it easier to measure and see the effectiveness of a solution in reducing the noise.
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Thanks for pointing me out to the videos. I think they are a great marketing tool.

Do you conduct any hard measurements, that show that your stuff is able to reduce noise by x dB in y-z Hz range ?

APC, which is renown power filter manufacturer, publish specs for every and each of their products.

For example, the APC C20B, which is one of the least expensive models, comes with the following specs:

AC Surge Performance
EMI/RFI Filtering 50 dB: 150 KHz ~ 1 MHz
40 dB: 1 MHz ~ 30 MHz

http://www.apcmedia.com/salestools/M...f?sdirect=true

This is a hard data showing filter's capabilities.

Do you conduct similar tests ? If so, can you share with us MPC measurements ?

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