P5 or P10 ASAP ?

[joeinid]

Originally Posted by jdandy

Joe.......According to the specifications I read, the PPP has a greater current capability than the P5. In fact, the PPP regenerated AC output is almost identical to the P10. Were I to consider replacing a Power Plant Premier, the P10 would be my choice if I decided to stay with PS Audio. I would also give strong consideration to the new PurePower 2000+ being manufactured in Canada.

Thanks for the clarification Dan. I just assumed.

[Bluemcintosh]

Originally Posted by jdandy

Joe.......According to the specifications I read, the PPP has a greater current capability than the P5. In fact, the PPP regenerated AC output is almost identical to the P10. Were I to consider replacing a Power Plant Premier, the P10 would be my choice if I decided to stay with PS Audio. I would also give strong consideration to the new PurePower 2000+ being manufactured in Canada.

Compared to the Power Plant Premier, PS Audio's previous state-of-the-art, the P5 boasts a 200% increase in transformer power, double the energy storage and four times the number of output devices (for both greater instantaneous peak and continuous current capability). This provides a stunning reduction in output impedance, which means the P5 delivers more power, faster and with greater stability to any load. In fact, the output impedance of the P5 is 100 times lower than any Power Plant ever built! - This what I've been told.

[jdandy]

Originally Posted by Bluemcintosh

Compared to the Power Plant Premier, PS Audio's previous state-of-the-art, the P5 boasts a 200% increase in transformer power, double the energy storage and four times the number of output devices (for both greater instantaneous peak and continuous current capability). This provides a stunning reduction in output impedance, which means the P5 delivers more power, faster and with greater stability to any load. In fact, the output impedance of the P5 is 100 times lower than any Power Plant ever built! - This what I've been told.

Paul.......Compare the publish specifications for yourself. Sure, the output impedance is lower, no argument there, but your equipment operates on current and voltage. Compare the Maximum Continuous Load capabilities between the three units. Compare the surge protection. The PPP is quite similar to the P10 with the exception of the output impedance. Whether there is an audible difference between 0.05 ohms and 0.0015 ohms of output impedance is your call.



PPP Specs:

Dimensions 17” W x 16.5” D x 4” H
Weight 35 lbs
Nominal Input Voltage 105-135
Maximum Continuous Load 1200VA
Dynamic Power Delivery 0.5 second >3600VA
Voltage Regulation +/- 0.5V
Output Distortion Input 1200VA Resistive load <0.5%
Output distortion Input 1200VA reactive load <0.5%
Output impedance <0.05 Ohm
Noise reduction 100KHz-2MHz >80dB
Efficiency @1200VA Resistive load >80% Reactive load >85%
Input Frequency 45-65Hz
Under voltage limit 90VAC
Over voltage limit 145VAC
Energy dissipation 2160J
Peak Current surge 144,000A
Max Surge 6,000 Volts
Clamp level 330v
Telco protection 320 Joules 395 volts
Coax insertion loss <1dB
DC trigger config Tip positive
DC trigger Voltage 5-15 volts DC


P5 Specs:

Dimensions 17” W x 14” D x 4” H
Weight 37 lbs
Nominal Input Voltage 95-145 (US) 200-285 VAC (Europe/Asia)
Maximum Continuous Load 1000VA (US) 1500VA (Europe/Asia)
Maximum Peak Load 1200VA (US) 1800VA (Europe/Asia)
Dynamic Power Delivery 0.5 second> 3600VA 9US) 5000VA (Eur./Asia)
Voltage Regulation +/- 0.5V (US) 1Vac (Europe/Asia)
Output Distortion Input 220-240VAC 1200VA Resistive Load <0.9%
Output Distortion 230V 240VAC 1200VA Reactive Load <0.9%
Output Distortion Input 110-130VAC 1200VA Resistive Load <0.5%
Output Distortion Input 110-130VAC 12000VA Reactive Load <0.5%
Output Impedance <0.0015 Ohm
Noise Reduction (all zones) 100KHz-2MHz >80dB
Efficiency @ 1200VA Resistive Load > 85% Reactive Load > 85%
Input Frequency 45-56Hz
Under Voltage Limit Continuous= -10% of setting, 15 Sec Duration= -15% of setting
Over Voltage Limit Continuous= 5% of setting, 15 Sec Duration= 10% of setting
Protection Modes L-N, L-G, N-G
Energy Dissipation 2440J (US) 3670J (Europe/Asia)
Peak Current Surge 144,000A (US) 84,000A (Europe/Asia)
Max Surge 6,000 Volts
Clamp Level 330V (US) 800V (Europe/Asia)
Telco Protection 320 Joules 395 volts
Coax Insertion loss <1dB
DC Trigger config Tip Positive
DC Trigger Voltage 5-15 volts dc


P10 Specs:

Dimensions 17” W x 14” D x 8.5” H
Weight 73 lbs
Nominal Input Voltage 95-145 (US) 200-285 VAC (Europe/Asia
Maximum Continuous Load 1200VA (US) 1800VA (Europe/Asia)
Maximum Peak Load 1500VA (US) 2000VA (Europe/Asia)
Dynamic Power Delivery 0.5 second> 3600VA (US) 5000VA (Eur./Asia)
Voltage Regulation +/- 0.5V (US) 1Vac (Europe/Asia)
Output Distortion Input 220-240VAC 1200VA Resistive Load <0.9%
Output Distortion 230V 240VAC 1200VA Reactive Load <0.9%
Output Distortion Input 110-130VAC 1200VA Resistive Load <0.5%
Output Distortion Input 110-130VAC 12000VA Reactive Load <0.5%
Output Impedance <0.0015 Ohm
Noise Reduction (all zones) 100KHz-2MHz >80dB
Efficiency @ 1200VA Resistive Load > 85% Reactive Load > 85%
Input Frequency 45-56Hz
Under Voltage Limit Continuous= -10% of setting 15 Sec Duration= -15% of setting
Over Voltage Limit Continuous= 5% of setting 15 Sec Duration= 10% of setting
Protection Modes L-N, L-G, N-G
Energy Dissipation 2440J (US) 3670J (Europe/Asia)
Peak Current Surge 144,000A (US) 84,000A (Europe/Asia)
Max Surge 6,000 Volts
Clamp Level 330V (US) 800V (Europe/Asia)
Telco Protection 320 Joules 395 volts
Coax Insertion loss <1dB
DC Trigger config Tip Positive
DC Trigger Voltage 5-15 volts dc

[SundayNiagara]

Everything I've read about PLC's says you don't use the amps with them. Thoughts?

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If your looking for greater instantaneous peak and continuous current capability the PurePower+ are a smidge more in that department......

Model 3000+

• 3000VA/2700 watts continuous load, 5400 watts short duration, 13,500 watts peak
• 10 Hubbell 5-15/20R outlets, 2 Hubbell L5-20R locking outlets
• Modular Powerpack base & seperate Regenerator, 17" depth, easy install
• 30 amp input power cord with L5-30P plug and wall receptacle included.
(Must have 30 amp circuit and #10 AWG wiring from electrical panel)
• World's most powerful audio AC regenerator, designed for high power systems.

Model 2000+

• 2000VA/1800 watts continuous load, 3600 watts short duration, 9000 watts peak
• 10 Hubbell 5-15R outlets, 2 Hubbell L5-15R locking receptacles
• Modular Powerpack base & seperate Regenerator, 17" depth, easy install
• 20 amp input locking power cord included
• World's 2nd most powerful audio AC regenerator, designed for high power amps.

Model 1500+

• 1500VA/1350 watts continuous load, 2700 watts short duration, 6750 watts peak
• 10 Hubbell NEMA 5-15 outlets
• Integrated Powerpack, 3U height, 17" depth
• Ideal for high end audio and mid power 7.1 ch home theater

[Masterlu]

Originally Posted by SundayNiagara

Everything I've read about PLC's says you don't use the amps with them. Thoughts?

Non-sense, I use PLC's with each and every Amplifier I own.

[Masterlu]

Originally Posted by Bluemcintosh

Compared to the Power Plant Premier, PS Audio's previous state-of-the-art, the P5 boasts a 200% increase in transformer power, double the energy storage and four times the number of output devices (for both greater instantaneous peak and continuous current capability). This provides a stunning reduction in output impedance, which means the P5 delivers more power, faster and with greater stability to any load. In fact, the output impedance of the P5 is 100 times lower than any Power Plant ever built! - This what I've been told.

There's a lot of sales hype in there, just saying. I own the PPP and the P5.

[Still-One]

PS Audio had issues with a lot of PPP's being sent back for warranty repair. The one I had repaired last September is back at PS Audio being repaired under warranty for the same issue. Although the spec may be similar the newer units are being produced under different conditions with what I am assuming are different parts.

Jim

[Bluemcintosh]

Originally Posted by Masterlu

There's a lot of sales hype in there, just saying. I own the PPP and the P5.

Totally agree with you however it is true though lol

Do you find the any difference ppp vs p5 ?

[Bluemcintosh]

Originally Posted by Still-One

PS Audio had issues with a lot of PPP's being sent back for warranty repair. The one I had repaired last September is back at PS Audio being repaired under warranty for the same issue. Although the spec may be similar the newer units are being produced under different conditions with what I am assuming are different parts.

Jim

That problem is main reason to change it.

I hear the clicking noise more than 7 times in 2 hour listening session and I think when the warranty is over I will loose so much money.