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Old 01-14-2018, 09:41 PM
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The thing is, I am in Australia. So we must work through the local distribution channel otherwise people at this end get upset and I get accused of buying grey import.
Understood...thank you for the clarification! Then again,...if the dealer does not respond, what right does he have to be upset or
opportunity for that matter if he's a no-show
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Old 01-14-2018, 09:54 PM
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Well, I've just called them at the store. They were not aware they were a Shunyata dealer. According to the national distributor they are a dealer. So when you have a Shunyata dealer who doesn't know they are a Shunyata dealer doesn't instil in me a lot of confidence in the local channel.
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Old 01-14-2018, 10:57 PM
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Old 01-15-2018, 12:10 AM
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I just called the SR distributor directly and they are able to assist. Actually, I had a good chat to them about all things Esoteric. And it turns out my local SR dealer has never bought anything SR from the SR distributor, hence my previous observations with that experience. Unfortunately no SR cables available to demo, the closest stock is 2000 miles away on the other side of the country.
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Old 01-16-2018, 09:14 AM
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It would be interesting as 50ohm cables are sine waves.

Is the nature of 50 ohm much more sensitive than 75 ohm using square waves or the typical spdif coax interface from transport to dac.

As such the conclusion seems for 50 ohm use, it is more sensitive.

I have a coax which cost at least the same as Sigma level cables, BUT ... looking at the construction definitely not a coaxial cable is the least bit, but sounds better than the even my Acrolink DA6100 (true 75ohm), which incidentally also cost more when used for the 75 ohm taps.

Many audiophile cables meant for digital are NOT coaxial cables under the hood.... handmade etc.... Yes, a belden 75ohm cable doesnt compare even to these offerings.

As 50ohm / 75 ohm can only be achieved by very precise spacing between the conductor and shield, there is absolutely no other way or amount or twisting / braiding that will allow this correct characteristics.

But again, there are arguments that unless running hundreds or thousands of meters any deviation affects transmission losses and in some case total loss of signal over the distance.

What are the characteristic sonic outcome when using precise cables for digital transmission? Are there any prominent characteristics not obtainable of any non compliant audiograde digital transmissions cables no meeting this strict standard?


What do we listen for, this will be highly enlightening for the audiophile community.
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Old 01-16-2018, 09:37 AM
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I have been playing with my digital clock cables a Acrolink 6100 , 5100, cybershaft clock cable and what my "best" sounding (non-75 ohm cable) to transmit 75 ohm PLL frequencies to the Esoteric K-01x and a mutec MC3.1+usb reclocking my streamer (also fed) via masterclock frequencies (accepted from 44.1khz in correct multiples to 10M)


It was interesting as i removed my best cable (non 75ohm) nor 50 ohm.

I was at a loss, substituting the Cybershaft generic clock cable. A loss of focus, less bass impact, definition and localization most appeaeant.

However, using different masterclock frequencies to the K-01x and muctec mc3.1+ usb.

I gained much back and the ipact of different frequencies fed as master has a profound effect on the sonics.

It seems now i am getting back much of the sound before eliminating 1 audiograde clock cable just applying different frequencies, i was much more profound than i recalled and answered my own question that clocking will have a much bigger impact than just the SPDIF/AESEBU interface from transport to dac (Using good correctly spec'ed cables)!

Any this is before changing any filter settings on the esoteric, footers, positioning or room acoustics tweaking!
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Old 01-18-2018, 10:02 AM
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The Esoteric-Mexcel 8N-A2000 50-ohm cable (assuming you find one globally that is authentic) is a great 50-ohm clocking cable. In my system, 2 of them performed extremely well and I was very happy for them. With my current equipment and with material I enjoy listening to, I am finding the Shunyata SIGMA Clock50s to be superior in certain areas that appeal to me; I've noted them already on the thread.
Thanks,
I have an Esoteric 8N-A2000 that I think original because bought, in second hand, to an official Esoteric dealer who had sold it new.
I use it between my G-01X (10Mhz/50 ohms) and my K-01X (75 ohms) with good results, but I will try the Sigma 50 if I have the opportunity to find one at good price.

Sorry for my English, I am French...
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