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Old 01-08-2010, 08:27 AM
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Glad you like it Serge...I was looking forward to your findings.

I'm impressed the PP2000 holds up with the Class A amps.

Even at insane levels I cannot get the PP2000 to go into overload.

I regularly check the incoming voltage...during the day hours it drops to 210 V which, for a european 230 V Power Supply in your audio gear, is outside the healthy +/- 10% bandwidth.

At midnight the incoming voltage is a stable 230V. It confirms my initial findings that the PP2000 allows my system to play at the midnight "golden hours" level of performance all of the time.

I'm glad Roger (my dealer) is letting me keep the demo-unit until the new one arrives.

...amazing piece of kit

...but now, I will also have to purchase its little brother, the PP700, for the MXA60 ...time to start printing some money
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Old 01-09-2010, 08:01 PM
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Just a quick follow up. The PurePower has been on for the last 48 hrs or so continuously. There is a definite and evolving change in my system and I've noticed quite a difference in terms of bass. There is a noticeable increase in slam and bass response as well as macro dynamics overall have improved. There was a period of time yesterday when the system started sounding a bit on the lean side but it has disappeared and for the better part of the day today, the system once again sounds rich and full with an overall improvement in bass like I already mentioned. Funny, I didn't expect a power conditioner to go through a break in period and certainly did not notice any significant changes with either the RGPC or PS Audio products I have. This one is different for sure.
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It just wants to be like those fancy racks that beerdraft is using...
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Old 01-09-2010, 08:30 PM
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It just wants to be like those fancy racks that beerdraft is using...
Probably. It does have a better excuse though for changing the sound.
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Old 01-09-2010, 08:44 PM
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Ok, I've never heard of this either. So you what plug the pure power into a 20 amp circuit and you can run front end and mono amps off of it alone without separate circuits? You have got an extensive system and I find that hard to believe but is this what you are doing and still improved dynamics and all. If so, WOW, I need to check this out.
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Ok, I've never heard of this either. So you what plug the pure power into a 20 amp circuit and you can run front end and mono amps off of it alone without separate circuits? You have got an extensive system and I find that hard to believe but is this what you are doing and still improved dynamics and all. If so, WOW, I need to check this out.
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Just a quick follow up. The PurePower has been on for the last 48 hrs or so continuously. There is a definite and evolving change in my system and I've noticed quite a difference in terms of bass. There is a noticeable increase in slam and bass response as well as macro dynamics overall have improved. There was a period of time yesterday when the system started sounding a bit on the lean side but it has disappeared and for the better part of the day today, the system once again sounds rich and full with an overall improvement in bass like I already mentioned. Funny, I didn't expect a power conditioner to go through a break in period and certainly did not notice any significant changes with either the RGPC or PS Audio products I have. This one is different for sure.
Hi Serge......Your break in findings are pretty much spot on, most customers notice changes with in the first week 50-100 hours of system use and after that things are stable.

I'm glad your enjoying

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Ok, I've never heard of this either. So you what plug the pure power into a 20 amp circuit and you can run front end and mono amps off of it alone without separate circuits? You have got an extensive system and I find that hard to believe but is this what you are doing and still improved dynamics and all. If so, WOW, I need to check this out.
I started out with RGPC 600s and Pole Pig, have ran various configurations to optimize that setup then moved on to the PS Power Plant Premier and now this PurePower unit. I've ran the amps separate and through the various power conditioners. For the front end and preamp, any decent power conditioner is a must! For the amps, it is a hit or miss. I ran my Lamm's through the PS PPP for a while and then went back to the 600s (tried both plugged in and in parallel) for the amps and PPP for everything else. I just found the PPP to lean out the sound of my Lamm's while the RGPC 600s restored the richness of tone.


The PurePower so far appears to be in a league of its own. Yes, it can support all my gear. Yes the dynamics have increased beyond the RGPC stuff. It is a keeper.

I understand you are using Running Springs power conditioners? Have you noticed a decrease in dynamics to be skeptical?
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I started out with RGPC 600s and Pole Pig, have ran various configurations to optimize that setup then moved on to the PS Power Plant Premier and now this PurePower unit. I've ran the amps separate and through the various power conditioners. For the front end and preamp, any decent power conditioner is a must! For the amps, it is a hit or miss. I ran my Lamm's through the PS PPP for a while and then went back to the 600s (tried both plugged in and in parallel) for the amps and PPP for everything else. I just found the PPP to lean out the sound of my Lamm's while the RGPC 600s restored the richness of tone.


The PurePower so far appears to be in a league of its own. Yes, it can support all my gear. Yes the dynamics have increased beyond the RGPC stuff. It is a keeper.

I understand you are using Running Springs power conditioners? Have you noticed a decrease in dynamics to be skeptical?
Serge
As I have noted previously the PPP's are a conundrum for me. I like that they clean up the background a bit and they allow me to hear a bit more low level detail. At the same time they seem to reduce the pace/speed of the music, similar to what I saw when adding the C-1000 between my MCD-500 and the 1.2ks. Since I am very happy with my system as is, I am about done with tweaking for the time being.

As far as RG gear, if I cannot say anything good.....
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Serge
As I have noted previously the PPP's are a conundrum for me. I like that they clean up the background a bit and they allow me to hear a bit more low level detail. At the same time they seem to reduce the pace/speed of the music, similar to what I saw when adding the C-1000 between my MCD-500 and the 1.2ks. Since I am very happy with my system as is, I am about done with tweaking for the time being.

As far as RG gear, if I cannot say anything good.....
Jim
I understand, different systems will react differently and or your preference may be for something other that the changes brought about. If you are happy, you are happy. I am not trying to sell the PurePower, just sharing my findings.
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