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Do NOT audition the Audio Research Reference Phono 2 SE
Why? It's dangerous.
As you may have seen elsewhere, I was auditioning a PH8 to replace my PH5, and after a week in my home I thought it was a good upgrade, improving on my PH5 in many areas, and I was ready to pull the trigger and purchase it. By a fluke, my dealer just happened to get in a Ref Phono 2 SE last Thursday, and since my loan was over Saturday I just had to A/B the two. What I found was not subtle at all. There was such a difference between the PH8 and the Ref Phono 2 SE that despite the doubling of the MSRP, I just had to have it. From soundstaging to air above and below the notes to sounding that much more like music - more than really the Ref Phono 2 SE had any right to make, it was a revelation. At this level I expect differences to be tiny - a more realistic triangle here, a hint of roughness in the voice there. You could hear how vast the difference was between the PH8 and the Ref 2 SE from the third note I ever heard played through it. We're not talking neo-tweaky differences here, we're talking "sit your non-audiophile friends down and watch their jaws drop" differences. We're talking I will need to re-listen to all the vinyl in my collection differences. So that's why I say do not audition the Ref Phono 2 SE; your checkbook may not be able to stand the hit it will take and/or may never recover - especially as you'll very likely feel that such an amazing piece of electronics deserves to be fed by a newer, better cartridge as well. (Can it be long before I determine my preamp really needs to be replaced by a Ref 5 SE as well? ) Last edited by BillK; 05-20-2012 at 04:59 AM. |
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Resistance is futile
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Congratulations !
Regards, Joe Ling
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Source 1 - Bergmann Sleipner + Benz Micro LP-S + ARC ref phono 10 (should have done this ages ago) Source 2 - Avid Acutus SP reference + Thales Reference tone arm + Benz Micro LPS (DS Audio Master 1 broken tip repaired but cost me USD2k. Still having issues - channel imbalance - back to dealer. However, channel issues not withstanding, sounded very very nice. Need to get it back soonest) Source 3 - DCS Vivaldi + Antelope reference clock or Cybershaft Op18 (not floating my boat so far) Source 5 - ROON ROCK with Aurender W20 as NAS & 2 units of SOTM switch with 10M input (the new frontier but still cannot beat CD for now) - ROON endpoint - Vivaldi upsampler Amplification - Naim Statement Speakers - ProAc Carbon 8 + JL FM113 x2 (replacement purchased - Stella Utopia EVO but due to lockdown, could be a year's wait) Purepower 2000 x 2 (&$@#% but sounds nice) Shunyata Denali X 2 |
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Congrats !
Although mine is not the SE version, I fully subscribe to your analysis. Enjoy it in great health for many many years !
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There are two means of refuge from the miseries of life: music and cats Albert Schweitzer |
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BillK, a BIG congrats!!
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Congratulations Bill!
BTW, thanks for the warning! Mike
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Great stuff Bill. Don't think you could go wrong with a Ref 5SE.
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I knew I shouldn't open this thread, even though I was warned not to!!!
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You can read about it, just don't listen to it or risk damage to your checkbook.
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This was coming:
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