AudioAficionado.org  

Go Back   AudioAficionado.org > Manufacturers Forums > Stillpoints

Stillpoints Lower Your Noise Floor

Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
  #21  
Old 11-27-2018, 01:42 AM
tima tima is online now
Living La Vida Vinyl
 
Join Date: Mar 2010
Posts: 1,032
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by bodiezaffa View Post
Hi Tima.

I just took delivery of ONE apeture panel a few days ago and noticed a big difference, especially in bass control.
Im thinking of getting either 1 or 2 more.
I dont expect the improvements to double with each panel added but considering you have 6, I wanted to get your opinion as you experimented.

Beautiful set up BTW.
Hi Mark

Thanks.

I started with 6 (on loan) for experimentation and I tried all sorts of placement and combinations. It's been a few years and I don't remember the effects from each combination. However I can share my opinion - every room is different - in general:

I think the bare minimum is two, located one each somewhere behind each speaker or alternatively, two vertically in the middle. I can't say whether the impact is doubled or not, but it is definitely significant - it was easy to hear the improvement with each Aperture I added.

More are better, up to a point. It certainly is possible to over-damp.

Two - as above.
Three - one behind each speaker and one in the middle -or- one in the middle and one at each sidewall first reflection point.
Four - one behind each speaker and one on each side wall at the first reflection point.
Five - same as Four + one in the middle between speakers.
Six - same as Five + one behind the listening position.

When I say "behind each speaker" that means within, say, a one-and-a-half foot spread to either side. Here's where experimenting helps. Same for height - you'll definitely want to experiment. The 3M Command Strips help for experimenting; I actually bought a few extra along the way. It took me a long time to commit to hanging them on the wall with the included Z-hangers. And I admit that, to some minor extent, aesthetics was a factor - I wanted a nice even arrangement.

Depending on your room and speakers it may be that 2 each on the side walls at first reflection will help. That was not the case for me.

I currently have 11. As shown is picture above, 6 behind speakers, 1 on each sidewall. Not shown are the 3 spread evenly across the back wall. Those back 3 have less impact than those in front, but they do help pull the soundstage a bit more into the room - that is, more depth. You can kinda see them in the picture under my profile.

Probably more than you wanted to know! It was fun trying different positions, but I took my time across a couple months and took notes. They are easy to move around.

Imo, the overall results are not small. The Apertures transformed my room and my listening experience - I would not give them up.

Last edited by tima; 11-27-2018 at 03:31 AM.
Reply With Quote
  #22  
Old 11-27-2018, 02:26 PM
ptman ptman is online now
Music Nut

 
Join Date: Oct 2012
Location: St. Louis, MO
Posts: 36
Default

I have 5 Apertures, in the arrangement described for "five" in the previous post.

I went from 2 to 5.

I tried one on the rear wall, behind the listening position (paired with two behind speakers, and two at first reflection points...then paired with two stacked middle and two behind speakers...then with two stacked middle and two at first reflection point).

I then tried all five on front wall in various configurations.

Ended with two behind speakers and one in center of front wall, and one at each first reflection point. The difference was significant and the best combination for my room. Due to doors, etc... I have the two at first reflection points on Aperture stands for easy movement to the reflection points and it works very well.
__________________
Two Channel
YG Acoustics Carmel
REL S/3 (pair)
BMC M2 Monoblocks
Bricasti M1 Limited Edition Gold
Laufer Teknik Memory Player 64 32 core
BMC BD1.1
Silver Circle Audio Pure Power One 3.0
Cables: Thales Line and Speaker, Stealth Audio Varidig V15T AES/EBU, WireWorld Platinum 7 USB, Waveform Fidelity HE MKIII Power, REL Bassline Subwoofers
Tweaks: Synergistic Research HFT/FEQ, Ansuz Sparkz TC, IsoAcoustic Gaia II speaker footers, Stillpoints Apertures and amp stands

Home Theater
Revel Performa I30, I20, C32, B15a
Lexicon MC-12Bv5
Lexicon LX-7
Marantz DV9500
PSAudio PowerDirector 3.5
Cables: Transparent
Reply With Quote
  #23  
Old 12-03-2018, 10:00 PM
bodiezaffa's Avatar
bodiezaffa bodiezaffa is online now
Chasing the 1%


 
Join Date: Dec 2010
Location: Toronto
Posts: 843
Default

I've settled on 3 for my system, 1 centered behind my speakers and one beside each speaker.
Nothing, and i mean nothing has made a greater leap forward sonically than these panels.
For $2400, I got $25,000 worth of value.
__________________
Mark-
Krell Evolution Series 302e amp / Auralic Aries G1 music server / MSB Analog DAC / Sonus Faber Amati Futura speakers / Bryston BIT20 power conditioner / Symposium Svette Plus Isolation Platform / Stillpoints Ultra 5's and Apeture panels/ Wireworld Silver, Gold and Platinum Eclipse cables
Reply With Quote
  #24  
Old 12-04-2018, 09:24 PM
tima tima is online now
Living La Vida Vinyl
 
Join Date: Mar 2010
Posts: 1,032
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by bodiezaffa View Post
I've settled on 3 for my system, 1 centered behind my speakers and one beside each speaker.
Nothing, and i mean nothing has made a greater leap forward sonically than these panels.
For $2400, I got $25,000 worth of value.
Good job Mark, big gains for smaller outlay!

These testamonials truly speak to the importance of acoustics; typically they have a greater sonic impact than a new DAC or cables, preamp or cartridge. If you have not given your room its due, you don't know yet the capabilities of what you have, and, you won't get there if just keep buying new electronics.

And here's another 'secret': the same holds true for vibration abatement. Consider platforms that are colorless, that allow the native characters of your components to speak for themselves, rather than trying to tune or adjust their sound to something they're not.
Reply With Quote
  #25  
Old 12-06-2018, 09:31 PM
bodiezaffa's Avatar
bodiezaffa bodiezaffa is online now
Chasing the 1%


 
Join Date: Dec 2010
Location: Toronto
Posts: 843
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by tima View Post

And here's another 'secret': the same holds true for vibration abatement. Consider platforms that are colorless, that allow the native characters of your components to speak for themselves, rather than trying to tune or adjust their sound to something they're not.
Hi Tima.
What do use in your system?
__________________
Mark-
Krell Evolution Series 302e amp / Auralic Aries G1 music server / MSB Analog DAC / Sonus Faber Amati Futura speakers / Bryston BIT20 power conditioner / Symposium Svette Plus Isolation Platform / Stillpoints Ultra 5's and Apeture panels/ Wireworld Silver, Gold and Platinum Eclipse cables
Reply With Quote
  #26  
Old 12-07-2018, 06:46 AM
tima tima is online now
Living La Vida Vinyl
 
Join Date: Mar 2010
Posts: 1,032
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by bodiezaffa View Post
Hi Tima.
What do use in your system?
Hi - I use Silent Running Audio's Scuttle-3 rack for front-end components and their Virginia Class platforms for my amps. Results are impressive.
Reply With Quote
Reply

Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump

Audioaficionado.org tested by Norton Internet Security

All times are GMT -4. The time now is 03:48 PM.



Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.10
Copyright ©2000 - 2018, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.
ęCopyright 2009-2018 AudioAficionado.org.Privately owned, All Rights Reserved.
Audio Aficionado Sponsors
AudioAficionado Subscriber
AudioAficionado Subscriber
Fortress
Fortress
Harmonic Resolution Systems
Harmonic Resolution Systems
Wyred4Sound
Wyred4Sound
Dragonfire Acoustics
Dragonfire Acoustics
GIK Acoustics
GIK Acoustics
Esoteric
Esoteric
AC Infinity
AC Infinity
JL Audio
JL Audio
Acoustic Sciences Corportation
Acoustic Sciences Corportation
Legend Audio & Video
Legend Audio & Video
Audio by E
Audio by E
Canton
Canton
Bryston
Bryston
WireWorld Cables
WireWorld Cables
Stillpoints
Stillpoints
Bricasti Design
Bricasti Design
Furutech
Furutech
Shunyata Research
Shunyata Research
Accuphase
Accuphase