x250.5 on the way!

[raidho]

thank you for reply.

I will sell the Raidho 3.1 and stay with the B&W802di. the punch from a speaker like a802di is for me important......
now:
Passlab xp20 stay,
x250.5 con be replace from a couple xa160.5 or

x250.5 PLUS x350.5 or xa100.5. (a ampli x250.5 that sound fine plus a xa100 or a big x350.5..)
The XA100.5 are enough to drive the b&w802di?????

With the combo XP20 & X250.5 I can have another integrated like the Gryphon diablo....or a couple of Bryston 7Bsst (monoblok 600watt)


The main speaker will be the B&W. (for me is very good)
--> of course a Magico S5 or Wilson audio sophia3 are too appracied!!


made a second system with the Graphon or the Bryston or gi with a "only
one" system Passlab xp20 - XA160.5 (they are not too much hot??) - speakers B&W802d2 - player/dac Meinter MA2???

thank you style

[mbovaird]

The XA160.5 should be enough for the 802di at 90db. But....they are 8ohm speakers. Normally a benign load, but that limits you to "only" 160 watts/channel.

It should be enough....

I'm a bit surprised you would sell the Raidho's. They are highly praised over here.

Let me throw you for a loop. Take a listen to a pair of Revel Salon 2's if you want a smooth top end (the best tweeter I have ever heard), massive soundstage and "punch". Combined with a pair of Classe CA-M600's, they would be awesome.

That being said, if you are sold on selling the Raidho's and getting some 802's, then the XA160.5's should be powerful enough. As for whether that's a good synergy or not, I can't say.

As for Bryston, go right for the 28's.

Mike

[rbbert]

Originally Posted by mbovaird

The XA160.5 should be enough for the 802di at 90db. But....they are 8ohm speakers. Normally a benign load, but that limits you to "only" 160 watts/channel.

It should be enough....


Mike

Remember, like all Pass Labs XA amps, there is 6 dB of Class A/B headroom above 160W (so 640W)

[raidho]

Thank you mbovaird & rbbert.
I use the 802d2 with a x250.5 and is enough. (well for me and my room -> long ca. 10meters large 6 BUT the system is not in the longer placed but in the 2/3 of the 6 meter of the room 1/3 is a lunch table ... open space 60m2 ca.


with the Raidho c 3.1 is differente: the same track "need" more power to sound like with the B&W802.
the pre is at 50dB., same track with the Raidho to have the same "volume" i must turn ar. 60dB. !! and over the paper the Raidho is well a 90bD. min.3.5ohm!!
= is the X250.5 not enough (in AMPERE electricity!! NOT WATT)


I will sell the Raidho (extrem choice becouse they sound very "real" guitar,violin, piano , female voices..are much more real vs the B&W but sound "light/ quite/ is not a rock angry speakers.)

the 802 still always in my room -> this speaker have a price/performance like not others....
a extra speaker will be a ceramic (tidal/Isophon) or a great Magico S5, Wilson Audio, Focal ....
powerfull speakers.

With the Passlab I go have the top from so one speaker. = happy!!!

the dealer say me that a XA100.5 in not enough and I go "accuse -feel the difference the power" from a x250.5 and the xa100.5...
well sell the x250.5 too and go with a pair of xa160.5 or stay with the x250.5 and extra xa100.5?

Sorry for my complicate question and my english very bad... I hope you can understand..

thank you
raidho

[mbovaird]

I think the XA160.5's will be plenty of power for the B&W speakers and likely a good fit. Just remember that they take at least 200 hours to break in and they need 30-45 minutes to warm up and sound their absolute best.

P.S. does this mean you will have to change your username here in AA?

[scb]

Does anyone have any numbers on the heat output of the x250.5? BTUs?

[scb]

Also, can the caps on the posts be removed to allow for banana plugs like on some other Pass models?

[Car commander]

Originally Posted by scb

Does anyone have any numbers on the heat output of the x250.5? BTUs?

I had one for 3 years. It just gets warm to the touch. It does not put out a lot of heat. I had it on some 89db 8ohm speakers and it never got out of Class A even at high volume. A great amp BTW.

[scb]

Desmond at Pass has told me that the x250.5 and above can absolutely not accept bananas.

IS anyone biwiring with the x250.5? Can each post fit 2 spades?

[raidho]

@ scb,

sorry waht for cables do you use for the connection pre-ampli?

copper or copper w. silver - full silver?
for the speakers?

Pass dont product ampli with a "option" bi-ampli or bi-wire.....I think why.....Mr.Nelson dont think that is a good improvement solution?!?!?


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