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Wow!!! Incredible set up!! With all these great power cords and signal cables, plus the C1100...it will be music nirvana

I just start my journey with Shunyata. Bought 2 Delta NR from Ivan and waiting for delivery hopefully next week. Plan to connect them to the MC611s, but eventually, will upgrade to Alpha NR for the MC611s, and move the Delta to my Oppo and Surround. I am also looking at the 6000T. The only thing is that it has 6 outlets, of which the bottom 2 outlets are HC for amps and the other 4 are for source components, so it may be tight as I plan to add components later on.

Enjoy your system and Happy Thanksgiving.

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Look for an announcement in January. There may be something just around the corner that may solve your issue.
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Look for an announcement in January. There may be something just around the corner that may solve your issue.
Hi Caelin,

Thanks for the heads-up. Just bought the 6000T. Very excited. Look forward to your products announcement in January; hopefully, this new product is complementary to the 6000T.

Happy Thanksgiving.
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Hi Caelin,

Thanks for the heads-up. Just bought the 6000T. Very excited. Look forward to your products announcement in January; hopefully, this new product is complementary to the 6000T.

Happy Thanksgiving.
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If you need more outlets you can always use a Venom PS8. It gives you 8 more outlets at a very reasonable price without degrading DTCD (instantaneous current). Connect it via one of the HC outlets which gives you substantial noise reduction from the Denali.
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If you need more outlets you can always use a Venom PS8. It gives you 8 more outlets at a very reasonable price without degrading DTCD (instantaneous current). Connect it via one of the HC outlets which gives you substantial noise reduction from the Denali.
Thanks. I plan to connect the Denali to a dedicated 20A line. If I connect the PS8 to the Denali, I think I may need to ensure that the total power from all of my components would not exceed the 20 Amp. Is this correct? Meaning I may connect source components to the extra outlets from the PS8 connected to the Denali, but not additional AMP which requires lot more HC power and hence, may be too much for the dedicated 20 A line.

Thanks again for your insights.

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Thanks. I plan to connect the Denali to a dedicated 20A line. If I connect the PS8 to the Denali, I think I may need to ensure that the total power from all of my components would not exceed the 20 Amp. Is this correct? Meaning I may connect source components to the extra outlets from the PS8 connected to the Denali, but not additional AMP which requires lot more HC power and hence, may be too much for the dedicated 20 A line.

Thanks again for your insights.

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Extremely unlikely you will exceed 20 amps. Unless you have another breakout of the LuFlu.
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Extremely unlikely you will exceed 20 amps. Unless you have another breakout of the LuFlu.
And the remedy to the LuFlu is.....more gears
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If you need more outlets you can always use a Venom PS8. It gives you 8 more outlets at a very reasonable price without degrading DTCD (instantaneous current). Connect it via one of the HC outlets which gives you substantial noise reduction from the Denali.
Hi Caelin,

I have ordered a Denali 6000T, and may add the PS8 and connect it to one of the 2 HC outlets from the Delanli as you suggested to add more outlets. I have some questions on which power cables that best match with the equipment (Power Amps, Surround Processor/Preamp, CD Player, DAC, Streamer).

My understanding is that the Denali has great NR capabilities, so connecting it to the wall outlet (dedicated 20A) with an Alpha NR C19 may not add further benefits; hence it’s better to use Alpha EF C19, or even Delta EF C19. Is there a significant benefit of the Alpha EF vs. Delta EF if I connect it from the Denali to the wall outlet? What would you recommend?

For connecting DACs, CD Player, Streamer and Pre-Amp, my understanding is they would benefit from high transient Power cables, so larger gauge cable like the Alpha serie would greatly benefit these gears (DACs, CD player, Streamer, Pre-amp). Is this correct? If so, would you recommend NR or EF cables?

For connecting power amps (like MC611s, or Bryston 9BST), what would you recommend? NR vs EF? My initial thought for power amps is to use larger gauge, ie Alpha NR C15. In my case, as I plan to connect the amps to the HC outlets of the Denali and/or the PS8 which already benefited from high NR capabilities of the Denali, would it make more sense to select Alpha EF C15? The savings would be directed to more cables

Sorry for the newbie questions, but I much appreciate your guidance.

Thanks.
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Hi Caelin,

I have ordered a Denali 6000T, and may add the PS8 and connect it to one of the 2 HC outlets from the Delanli as you suggested to add more outlets. I have some questions on which power cables that best match with the equipment (Power Amps, Surround Processor/Preamp, CD Player, DAC, Streamer).

My understanding is that the Denali has great NR capabilities, so connecting it to the wall outlet (dedicated 20A) with an Alpha NR C19 may not add further benefits; hence it’s better to use Alpha EF C19, or even Delta EF C19. Is there a significant benefit of the Alpha EF vs. Delta EF if I connect it from the Denali to the wall outlet? What would you recommend?

For connecting DACs, CD Player, Streamer and Pre-Amp, my understanding is they would benefit from high transient Power cables, so larger gauge cable like the Alpha serie would greatly benefit these gears (DACs, CD player, Streamer, Pre-amp). Is this correct? If so, would you recommend NR or EF cables?

For connecting power amps (like MC611s, or Bryston 9BST), what would you recommend? NR vs EF? My initial thought for power amps is to use larger gauge, ie Alpha NR C15. In my case, as I plan to connect the amps to the HC outlets of the Denali and/or the PS8 which already benefited from high NR capabilities of the Denali, would it make more sense to select Alpha EF C15? The savings would be directed to more cables

Sorry for the newbie questions, but I much appreciate your guidance.

Thanks.
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There are several strategies to connect your equipment. This is what I recommend that you try first.

Use the Venom PS8 to connect all the power amps and sub(s). If you only have a single wall outlet circuit, connect the PS8 directly to the wall with its power cord.

Then, plug the Denali into the same wall duplex but use the second outlet. So, the PS8 will be plugged into the top outlet and the Denali into the bottom outlet.

Plug your source equipment into the Denali outlets. The equipment that you plug into the Denali can use a Delta EF or Alpha EF cable. Remember that the cable that connects the Denali to the wall is critical to overall performance since ALL current to the components flows through this cable.

I would recommend Delta NR or Alpha NR for the amplifiers and subs that connect to the PS8. So one strategy would be to use an Alpha NR to connect the PS8 to the wall. Then, use Delta NRs to each amplifier. For better performance, (at a higher cost) substitute Alpha NRs for the Delta cables. But don’t underestimate the abilities of the Delta cables. They are extremely capable regardless of their modest cost. Read the recent review of the Delta cables in hi-fi+ magazine.
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There are several strategies to connect your equipment. This is what I recommend that you try first.

Use the Venom PS8 to connect all the power amps and sub(s). If you only have a single wall outlet circuit, connect the PS8 directly to the wall with its power cord.

Then, plug the Denali into the same wall duplex but use the second outlet. So, the PS8 will be plugged into the top outlet and the Denali into the bottom outlet.

Plug your source equipment into the Denali outlets. The equipment that you plug into the Denali can use a Delta EF or Alpha EF cable. Remember that the cable that connects the Denali to the wall is critical to overall performance since ALL current to the components flows through this cable.

I would recommend Delta NR or Alpha NR for the amplifiers and subs that connect to the PS8. So one strategy would be to use an Alpha NR to connect the PS8 to the wall. Then, use Delta NRs to each amplifier. For better performance, (at a higher cost) substitute Alpha NRs for the Delta cables. But don’t underestimate the abilities of the Delta cables. They are extremely capable regardless of their modest cost. Read the recent review of the Delta cables in hi-fi+ magazine.
Thanks Caelin for your insights and recommendations.

I have 2 20A lines, so will plug the Denali and PS8 separately to those 2 20A Wall Outlets.

I have also bought a Venom Defender. Would you recommend plugging a Venom defender in each of the 20A wall outlet socket along with the Denali and PS8, or connect the Defender in one of the sockets of the Denali and PS8?

Also, the bottom 2 sockets of the Denali are HC. Can I connect source components to these, or they only designed for Amps?

To recap on cable needs:
* PS8 to 20A wall outlet: Alpha NR (best) or Delta NR
* Denali to 20A wall outlet: Alpha EF (best), or Delta EF (as the Denali has great NR capabilities, I think I would only need EF cables. Is this correct or should I use NR cables to connect the Denali to the Wall outlet?)
* Amps and Sub to PS8: Alpha NR (best) or Delta NR (if I connect the PS8 to the wall outlet using Alpha NR)
* Sources (Pre-Amp, CD Player, Streamer, PS Audio DAC) to Denali: Alpha EF (best) or Delta EF

Thanks again.
Best,
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