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Old 01-16-2011, 01:43 PM
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David.......The Avid Diva II with the Rega RB-301 tonearm is a good value at reatil $2300.00 without a phono cartridge. That would leave you a nice budge for any number of excellent moving coil cartridges, like maybe the new Ortofon Cadenza Black at $2400.00 retail. At a grand total of $4700.00, this would be a nice vinyl rig.


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I like this one too
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Old 01-16-2011, 02:07 PM
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David, if you are going to stick this table into your built in shelves, go with something that is compact and all integrated, ie.. no outboard motors for simplicity. I'd suggest this table. A bit higher than your budget in terms of retail but I am sure you can pick one up with a discount to squeeze a cartridge into your budget.

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Old 01-16-2011, 02:11 PM
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David.......Yes, I like the Avid Volvere, too, but you are pushing your budget out to $5500 without a tonearm or phono cartridge. If you're going to tease yourself like this, then screw the budget, and go for the gusto.


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Old 01-16-2011, 02:20 PM
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Serge.......I agree with your suggestion. I have liked the Pro-Ject Xtension turntable since I first saw it. $5K with tonearm, but without a cartridge.


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I would go with Tonepub's recommendations for the Concept and one of those two cartridges. His advice is perfect for your situation, if you only have a few hundred LPs and do occasional LP listening compared to listening to your digital content. Use the extra $2500 you save for a nice, used, EAR834P phono stage and put the remainder into LPs! The Concept is punches WAY above it's weight class for the money, nothing else even comes close in it's price class.

I have a Clearaudio Concept TT and can confirm Tonepub's recommendations; his comments are bang on the money. It's not quite my Gyro SE MkII and SME V, but it's 85% of the way there.
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If sound is your no.1 priority and less so with cosmetics then I would consider a slightly less cost TT/Cart combo and think about adding a phono stage......The C-2300 phono stage will be the limiting factor.

Putting a vinyl rig together is somewhat like putting an entire system together, you have the table, arm, cartridge, phono cable, phono stage, power cord....lot's of variables to consider for sure.......Spending $3000-$3500 on a table/cart and $2000 on a phono stage will have much more impact on the end result than $5000-$5500 table/cart package IMO. There was already a great recommendation earlier for way under your budget leaving you room for a great phono stage.

The phono stage plays more of a roll than you may think.......YMMV as this is audio!

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I like this JA Michell Gyro SE $2895 list.

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If sound is your no.1 priority and less so with cosmetics then I would consider a slightly less cost TT/Cart combo and think about adding a phono stage......The C-2300 phono stage will be the limiting factor.

Putting a vinyl rig together is somewhat like putting an entire system together, you have the table, arm, cartridge, phono cable, phono stage, power cord....lot's of variables to consider for sure.......Spending $3000-$3500 on a table/cart and $2000 on a phono stage will have much more impact on the end result than $5000-$5500 table/cart package IMO. There was already a great recommendation earlier for way under your budget leaving you room for a great phono stage.

The phono stage plays more of a roll than you may think.......YMMV as this is audio!

Which is why I suggested a table/cart in the $2500 range, especially if you don't have a ton of vinyl...

The vinyl thing is a ton of fun, but as you've seen from many of us here can easily lead to madness. (not that it's a bad thing) A big part of getting the sound you want out of analog is the quality of the pressings you have. If you don't want to spend a ton of money on the best remasters and seeking out pristine originals of your favorite music, I'd seriously think twice about spending more than a couple thousand bucks on an analog front end.

But the good news is that if you really do start chasing good records, you can always get right back out of a table/arm/cart like that and not lose much money.
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David my recommendations:

1. Cheaper - I second Jeff's rec Clearaudio Concept table and Clearaudio Maestro MM cart. This cart sounds great with my C2300. I have read positive reviews regarding the Concept table - sounds much better than it should for the $ apparently

2. More expensive. I second the rec VPI Classic. Lyra Delos MC cart. Lyra + VPI = music. Under 5k.
If you stretch your budget a tad, the Lyra Kleos MC cart + VPI would be perfect IMO

Given you stated only 10% analog listening, I think you cannot do better than option #1.

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