Is vinyl worth it?

[Masterlu]

Originally Posted by gapple88

Sorry to bother...

Any comparison between the New clearaudio Double matrix sonic and the KLaudio?
(why you prefer KLA over the new sonic pro)

I am looking to get just 1 RCM myself..

Thanks!

The best RCM is the one you use; my go to cleaner is Klaudio. The CA-DMS still takes too much effort; clamp vinyl, move arm, start machine, move anti static arm, unclamp.

[gapple88]

Thanks!

[JCR]

Originally Posted by Masterlu

The best RCM is the one you use; my go to cleaner is Klaudio. The CA-DMS still takes too much effort; clamp vinyl, move arm, start machine, move anti static arm, unclamp.

But when you do use it (:-) does it produce better result then the KL? In other words is the extra effort worthed!

[Sunnyboy1956]

JCR
Just wondering if you have hooked up the Nagra VPS to the MPS and what are your impressions ? I just obtained a Nagra MPS for my VPS. I presume some breakin is required. Straight out of the box can't make out much if anything
Cheers
Pradeep

[tunes]

Pradeep,
If your mps has the battery option, feed your vps through input 1 for maximum impact.

[JCR]

Originally Posted by Sunnyboy1956

JCR Just wondering if you have hooked up the Nagra VPS to the MPS and what are your impressions ? I just obtained a Nagra MPS for my VPS. I presume some breakin is required. Straight out of the box can't make out much if anything Cheers Pradeep

My impression of the VPS with the MPS are obviously very good since this is the phono setup I will keep in my setup. However since I already had the MPS in my system I did not compare the VPS with and without the MPS. One thing my dealer told me is that the VPS should benefit from the MPS even more so than say their Jazz or even the HD Dac which both already have several improvement on AC regulation compared to the VPS which was designed before I guess.

When I did get the MPS, I saw a big difference with break-in after one month of continuous power-on. Also, it needs to be on for at least 24 hours to play at its optimum.

Finally, while my MPS does have the battery option, I always preferred it using linear portion of the PS as opposed to the battery section. In my system anyway, the linear portion is simply better and more fluid than the battery section...

Hope this helps.

[edkoz]

Is vinyl worth it? To me yes. Beyond the sound quality, vinyl provides the chance to hear music inexpensively that I would not normally buy a CD to hear.. There is a great deal of old LPs available for next to nothing. Plus vinyl gives me a chance to have fun hunting for those gems that are out there.
Ed

[Number95]

Originally Posted by JCR

Out of curiosity, have you ever tried the ZYX OMEGA Premium? I am not yet familiar with the impact of a cartridge break-in period but I know the UNIVERSE Premium I have is new (say ~10 hours of play time, while the OMEGA PREMIUM has about 150 hours on it). While the ZYX Universe Premium seem more fluid, more open out of the box, it does have a bit less bass and mostly less mid bass giving less "flesh in the medium" compared to the OMEGA Premium. The highs are also a bit less relaxed compared to the Omega. I suspect this to be due to break-in period but given I am not that familiar with cartridge, I wondered if you had any thoughts...

Best, Jacques

Hi Jacques,

I think 10 hours of playing time is not enough in terms of really assessing Uni Premium, you should wait until 70-80 hours IMHO. That said, even after 1 hour of listening I never felt Uni Premium lacked anything (eg less bass energy) or had something extra to give (eg aggressive highs) and tonally it has been neutral. Within time it only refined and refined. I think it is crucial to optimize the cartridge alignment as well as experimenting on vta/vtf/azimuth for that level of a cartridge or its performance will be diluted. I use Zyx with Graham Elite tonearm and even the slightest change in tonearm setting (like anti damping fluid level within pivot or antiskating) made important sonic differences with Zyx. I tried original Omega previously so can not compare Uni Premium to Omega Premium, but I can say Uni Premium's bass texture and dynamic range is clearly superior to Omega as well as much better mids and extended highs.

[JCR]

Originally Posted by Number95

Hi Jacques, I think 10 hours of playing time is not enough in terms of really assessing Uni Premium, you should wait until 70-80 hours IMHO. That said, even after 1 hour of listening I never felt Uni Premium lacked anything (eg less bass energy) or had something extra to give (eg aggressive highs) and tonally it has been neutral. Within time it only refined and refined. I think it is crucial to optimize the cartridge alignment as well as experimenting on vta/vtf/azimuth for that level of a cartridge or its performance will be diluted. I use Zyx with Graham Elite tonearm and even the slightest change in tonearm setting (like anti damping fluid level within pivot or antiskating) made important sonic differences with Zyx. I tried original Omega previously so can not compare Uni Premium to Omega Premium, but I can say Uni Premium's bass texture and dynamic range is clearly superior to Omega as well as much better mids and extended highs.

Thanks!