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Old 04-25-2016, 12:01 PM
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I compared a few years ago with 3 friends the MSB to my MCD/MDA1000: The Macintosh was the clear winner for all.

GOOD NEWS:
I have good news for the N70A owners: the last ARCAM App on iPhone works perfectly and can even stream from my LogitechMediaServer running on my NAS SYNOLOGY.
The second App I use instead of the crappy Pioneer App is DS Audio.

I didn't yet connect my N70A to my MDA1000, but I'm satisfied for now with direct XLR connection to my preamp.
Jean-Marc jmajma.....The Audionet Music manager App also works very well with the N-70A, only on a NAS device of course.

https://play.google.com/store/apps/d....android&hl=en
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Old 05-31-2016, 11:12 AM
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I'm currently using the Slimdevice Transformer and have been for close to ten years (flac files only 36,000 and growing). Recently I've come to the conclusion that 2016 DAC's will improve my listening pleasure. I'm considering 3 devices that do not necessarily need to replace the Transformer but may in fact do so.
1. Pioneer Network Audio Player N-70A
2. Sony HAPZ1ES 1TB Hi-Res Music Player System
3. Cambridge Audio Azur 851N

Your recommendation?







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Every now and then a component comes along, the performance of which belie its price tag.

I noted the comments regarding Sony’s HAP-Z1ES, in terms of its incredible value, and my experience with the Pioneer N-70A confirm those sentiments.

I sold my beloved EAR Acute CD player with a view to get the Pioneer as a bridge player to get me into Computer audio. The plan was to upgrade to a higher end Network player later on, and perhaps the Accuphase DP600 CD player.

Great was my surprise when the Pioneer in my system sounded notably better than the Acute in almost all aspects, better detail retrieval, a more natural top end, bigger soundstage, tighter and deeper bass, and a more energetic presentation. I was even more surprised, using my Michell Gyro SE, Oracle 345 tone arm, Benz Micro Gullwing SHR as a reference and could hardly hear a difference in tonal balance. The turntable is slightly more sparkly on top, with a tiny bit more bass punch. The Pioneer sounds utterly natural. I cannot stop listening to my system.

The Pioneer N-70A retails for 1000 GBP in the UK. It has not been released in the US yet. I would venture to guess that the US price will be in the region of $1800, if not less
I have it connected to my router by means of a 15meter CAT6 solid core cable, but currently all my listening is via local storage in the form of a 2TB WD My Book HD connected with a standard in the box 1M USB3 cable. I cannot imagine a NAS would sound better, given potential losses over a 15m Ethernet cable.

What a pleasure to have easy access to my entire music collection, with sound quality better than a CD player costing almost 4 times the price. All my music is ripped to uncompressed FLAC using dBPoweramp. I don’t have any High-Resolution files yet and frankly I am very happy with my current 16/44 material.

I do not intend investing in a high-end cd player anymore, The Pioneer is simply good enough! I would be interested however at a later date to add a high-end DAC to the Pioneer to gauge whether such an upgrade would be worthwhile

The build quality of the N-70A is astounding for the price, with a full aluminium enclosure and reinforced bottom plate. The inside is divided into 3 chambers to separate digital and analogue sections withy twin shielded transformers. The N-70A has balanced outputs, which are phase adjustable in terms of selecting either pin 2 or 3 as hot

The player has 200 hours on it at time of this mini review, and still improving!

I replaced the standard feet with 3 Symposium Rollerblocks jr. Powercord used is Audioquest NRG10, and Interconnect is 0.75M Audioquest Niagara XLR

Here is a good overview of the N-70A
Pioneer N70A Black | Network Music Player | Richer Sounds

Note the internal view here;

PIONEER

It would appear that we have a revolution on our hands in terms of value for money. These latest NETWORK players are simply outstanding. I think Bryston with their digital player were on the money from day one. I have not listened to the Bryston yet, but if it’s notably better than the Pioneer, then I would say that CD is truly dead, or is it!

Negatives:

The Pioneer control APP is abysmal. Pioneer need to get their house in order and redesign the App
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Old 06-01-2016, 09:24 AM
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Reference System: ACCUPHASE A300 AMPS, C3900 PRE-AMP, DP1000 CD/SACD TRANSPORT, DC1000 DIGITAL PROCESSOR, DG-68 DIGITAL EQUALIZER, T1200 FM STEREO TUNER, PS1230 POWER SUPPLY, HRS-SXR CUSTOM RACK w/ M3X SHELVES, TAD REFERENCE ONE MK2 LOUDSPEAKERS, WW PLATINUM CABLES
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MX150, MC501(2) MC1.2KW(10) MC2301(2) MR88, MVP881, MCD1100, MDA1000, C1000C/P/T, MPC1500, ESOTERIC K-01X 30th ANNIVERSARY (BLACK) SACD/CD PLAYER, G02-X CLOCK, HT3F(2) XRT2K, XCS2K, XR27(2) JL GOTHAM v2 SUBS(2) JL FATHOM F113v2 SUBS(4) SOUND ANCHOR STANDS(2) KALEIDESCAPE STRATO & TERRA SERVERS 80-TB, LUMAGEN RADIANCE SCALER, SONY VPH-G90U 4K PROJECTOR, STEWART 120" SCREEN, SONUS FABER STRADIVARI, SILENZIO MUSIC SERVER, FORTRESS SEATING, WW PLATINUM CABLES
Analog Rig: CLEARAUDIO INNOVATION WOOD, UNIVERSAL ARM w/ Da VINCI' CART, 2nd UNIVERSAL ARM w/ GOLDFINGER STATEMENT CART, HRS-MXR REFERENCE RACK-GLOSS BLACK w/ M3X SHELVES, AESTHETIX RHEA SIG PHONO-PRE, BRYSTON BHA-1 HEADPHONE AMP, WW PLATINUM CABLES
Reference System: BURMESTER 911MK3 AMP(3), 088 PRE-AMP, 089 CD PLAYER, 100 PHONO PRE-AMP, 948 POWER CONDITIONER, ACCUPHASE DG-68 VOICING EQUALIZER, AVID ACUTUS REFERENCE SP TT, GRAHAM PHANTOM II SUPREME ARM, BENZ MICRO LP-S CART, GRANDIOSO P1X/D1X STACK, G1X RUBIDIUM MASTER CLOCK, N05 NETWORK PLAYER, SILENZIO MUSIC SERVER, HRS-SXR CUSTOM RACK w/ M3X SHELVES, SONUS FABER AIDA SPEAKERS, JL FATHOM F113v2 SUBS(2) SOUND ANCHOR STANDS(2) WW PLATINUM CABLES

Library System: GRANDIOSO M1 MONOBLOCK AMPS, C1 LINESTAGE PRE-AMP, K1X CD/SACD PLAYER, G1 MASTER RUBIDIUM CLOCK, E02 PHONO-PRE, SILENZIO MUSIC SERVER, AERIAL ACOUSTICS 20T V2, AERIAL SW12 SUBS(2), CANTON REF K1’s, VPI HRX TT w/ SDS POWER SUPPLY, ORTOFON CADENZA BLACK CART, KLAUDIO RCM, SHUNYATA DENALI 6000/S v2, SHUNYATA OMEGA QR’s, WW PLATINUM CABLES
Esoteric/Bryston System: ESOTERIC C02-X PRE-AMP, P-02X TRANSPORT, D02-X DAC, G02-X CLOCK, BRYSTON 28B3 CUBED MONOBLOCK AMPS(4), BRYSTON BHA-1 HEADPHONE AMP, SHUNYATA DENALI 6000/S v2(2) EVEREST 8000 POWER CONDITIONER(2) ALTAIRA CG & SG HUBS, AMR-DP777-SE DAC, SILENZIO MUSIC SERVER, TAD REFERENCE ONE MK2 LOUDSPEAKERS, QUADRASPIRE RACK, WW PLATINUM CABLES
Accuphase/Canton System: ACCUPHASE E800 INTEGRATED, DP570 CD/SACD PLAYER, T1200 FM STEREO TUNER, DG-68 VOICING EQUALIZER, PS530 POWER SUPPLY, CANTON REF K3’s, CANTON REF K5’s, SILENZIO MUSIC SERVER, HRS MXR REFERENCE MAHOGHANY RACK w/ M3X2 SHELVES, WW GOLD CABLES
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markreif... All 3 those players would be an excellent choice in terms of sound quality, however, neither of these players support TIDAL. I think you should future proof, and choose an integrated player that supports Tidal, whether you are interested in Tidal at this stage or not. I assuming you are not interested in running a Laptop and a DAC. You shouldn't be
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MX136, MC1.2KW(10) MC2KW(2), MCD1100, MS750(2) MVP881, C1000C/P/T, MPC1500, HT-2 SUBS(2) HT3F(2) WS350(2) XRT2K, XCS2K, XR27(2) XCS350(2) JL GOTHAM v2 SUBS(2) SILENZIO MUSIC SERVER, LUMAGEN RADIANCE SCALER, SONY VPH-G90U 4K PROJECTOR, STEWART 120" MOTORIZED SCREEN, CINEMA-TECH SEATING, WW PLATINUM CABLES
Reference System: ACCUPHASE A300 AMPS, C3900 PRE-AMP, DP1000 CD/SACD TRANSPORT, DC1000 DIGITAL PROCESSOR, DG-68 DIGITAL EQUALIZER, T1200 FM STEREO TUNER, PS1230 POWER SUPPLY, HRS-SXR CUSTOM RACK w/ M3X SHELVES, TAD REFERENCE ONE MK2 LOUDSPEAKERS, WW PLATINUM CABLES
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MX150, MC501(2) MC1.2KW(10) MC2301(2) MR88, MVP881, MCD1100, MDA1000, C1000C/P/T, MPC1500, ESOTERIC K-01X 30th ANNIVERSARY (BLACK) SACD/CD PLAYER, G02-X CLOCK, HT3F(2) XRT2K, XCS2K, XR27(2) JL GOTHAM v2 SUBS(2) JL FATHOM F113v2 SUBS(4) SOUND ANCHOR STANDS(2) KALEIDESCAPE STRATO & TERRA SERVERS 80-TB, LUMAGEN RADIANCE SCALER, SONY VPH-G90U 4K PROJECTOR, STEWART 120" SCREEN, SONUS FABER STRADIVARI, SILENZIO MUSIC SERVER, FORTRESS SEATING, WW PLATINUM CABLES
Analog Rig: CLEARAUDIO INNOVATION WOOD, UNIVERSAL ARM w/ Da VINCI' CART, 2nd UNIVERSAL ARM w/ GOLDFINGER STATEMENT CART, HRS-MXR REFERENCE RACK-GLOSS BLACK w/ M3X SHELVES, AESTHETIX RHEA SIG PHONO-PRE, BRYSTON BHA-1 HEADPHONE AMP, WW PLATINUM CABLES
Reference System: BURMESTER 911MK3 AMP(3), 088 PRE-AMP, 089 CD PLAYER, 100 PHONO PRE-AMP, 948 POWER CONDITIONER, ACCUPHASE DG-68 VOICING EQUALIZER, AVID ACUTUS REFERENCE SP TT, GRAHAM PHANTOM II SUPREME ARM, BENZ MICRO LP-S CART, GRANDIOSO P1X/D1X STACK, G1X RUBIDIUM MASTER CLOCK, N05 NETWORK PLAYER, SILENZIO MUSIC SERVER, HRS-SXR CUSTOM RACK w/ M3X SHELVES, SONUS FABER AIDA SPEAKERS, JL FATHOM F113v2 SUBS(2) SOUND ANCHOR STANDS(2) WW PLATINUM CABLES

Library System: GRANDIOSO M1 MONOBLOCK AMPS, C1 LINESTAGE PRE-AMP, K1X CD/SACD PLAYER, G1 MASTER RUBIDIUM CLOCK, E02 PHONO-PRE, SILENZIO MUSIC SERVER, AERIAL ACOUSTICS 20T V2, AERIAL SW12 SUBS(2), CANTON REF K1’s, VPI HRX TT w/ SDS POWER SUPPLY, ORTOFON CADENZA BLACK CART, KLAUDIO RCM, SHUNYATA DENALI 6000/S v2, SHUNYATA OMEGA QR’s, WW PLATINUM CABLES
Esoteric/Bryston System: ESOTERIC C02-X PRE-AMP, P-02X TRANSPORT, D02-X DAC, G02-X CLOCK, BRYSTON 28B3 CUBED MONOBLOCK AMPS(4), BRYSTON BHA-1 HEADPHONE AMP, SHUNYATA DENALI 6000/S v2(2) EVEREST 8000 POWER CONDITIONER(2) ALTAIRA CG & SG HUBS, AMR-DP777-SE DAC, SILENZIO MUSIC SERVER, TAD REFERENCE ONE MK2 LOUDSPEAKERS, QUADRASPIRE RACK, WW PLATINUM CABLES
Accuphase/Canton System: ACCUPHASE E800 INTEGRATED, DP570 CD/SACD PLAYER, T1200 FM STEREO TUNER, DG-68 VOICING EQUALIZER, PS530 POWER SUPPLY, CANTON REF K3’s, CANTON REF K5’s, SILENZIO MUSIC SERVER, HRS MXR REFERENCE MAHOGHANY RACK w/ M3X2 SHELVES, WW GOLD CABLES
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