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Old 04-02-2015, 07:15 PM
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Many a time, it is not only the amp that count. Most people neglected the source and use a source that only cost 20% of the amp. Rubbish in rubbish out.
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The Magicos sound magical with 15 ips tape.
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Many a time, it is not only the amp that count. Most people neglected the source and use a source that only cost 20% of the amp. Rubbish in rubbish out.
At this level playing field, every single little things matter.
My most recent experience being one single wrong fuse (highly regarded audiophile ones btw.), disrupted the whole system (skewed the tonal balance, akin to mild v-slope applied on eQ). Many grating listening sessions and sleepless nights waiting for it to supposedly break, peace only returned after the original was re-inserted.
This is only but one example, there are myriad of others. So I'd only pass judgement on speakers/equipments which I own or had long term exposure to ~ yet, then again are still subjective opinions. Man, this hobby is complicated, more so for an ocd like me.
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Old 04-03-2015, 12:02 AM
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Many a time, it is not only the amp that count. Most people neglected the source and use a source that only cost 20% of the amp. Rubbish in rubbish out.
I disagree. Few sources sound bad today. There are some great ones but anyone who is playing in the Magico sandbox isn't pairing it with a $99 CD player.
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Old 04-03-2015, 06:57 AM
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I think the higher the level, the more the match becomes important.
Here in Holland there are only a few persons who have the experience to create an amazing natural sound. Just to be clear: I'm not one of them, I can only listen.

My reviewer-friend is one of them, but he can't always help me. Why not?
He is always playing so loud that one almost has to protect his ears. And he wants to hear the music more into the face. Like you are sitting very close to the musicians. Wat a problems we have all

Some of you have great equipment. Are there only millionairs here?
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Old 04-03-2015, 07:25 AM
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I disagree. Few sources sound bad today. There are some great ones but anyone who is playing in the Magico sandbox isn't pairing it with a $99 CD player.
Are you saying all sources sound the same?
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it must be S-series, all the screws are visible, Q series have the curved baffle and the units are mounted from the backside of the baffle.

Thinking about it, it amazes me that Magico will introduce a speaker larger than the S5 in their entry series. The price must be getting very close to the Q series (Q3)
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Many a time, it is not only the amp that count. Most people neglected the source and use a source that only cost 20% of the amp. Rubbish in rubbish out.
I recently upgraded to Magico S3's from Avalon Eidolon's. This upgrade is costing me WAY more than I bargained for as the Magico's really reveal what the sources are feeding them.

So far the damage is a new Phono Pre, and the pre amp and DAC are up next....
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Many a time, it is not only the amp that count. Most people neglected the source and use a source that only cost 20% of the amp. Rubbish in rubbish out.
Just to amplify this, the Transguard TG3 80 makes a much bigger improvement than I thought it would - it adds quite a bit of detail while making the mids and highs sound smoother and more natural. The tweeters really do appreciate the "rubbish removal".
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Are you saying all sources sound the same?
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No. I am saying that in general there are really no bad sources. There are no garbage in.
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No. I am saying that in general there are really no bad sources. There are no garbage in.
The Magicos are particularly sensitive to any harshness or glare in the high frequencies - any digital sources with this tendency can be considered bad matches for them IMO.
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