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Old 05-01-2016, 04:18 PM
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Old 05-02-2016, 02:37 AM
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Tested both in last 2 months.

P5 is very good.
P10 is very, very good (no fan is a bonus).

Whatever one you buy, just having an AC regenerator in the system is a truly remarkable improvement.

Power wise, the P5 will handle your requirements perfectly.
But its true the P10 does make a system sound that extra bit better (has more body to the sound), mine sits at about 18% so its not having to work hard heat wise.

In the Euro and Australian versions the P5 only has 4 outputs, but the P10 has 9 as the case is so big. 4 was not enough for me.

As the price difference where I live was minimal I opted for the P10.

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Old 05-02-2016, 10:06 PM
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Tested both in last 2 months. P5 is very good. P10 is very, very good (no fan is a bonus). Whatever one you buy, just having an AC regenerator in the system is a truly remarkable improvement. Power wise, the P5 will handle your requirements perfectly. But its true the P10 does make a system sound that extra bit better (has more body to the sound), mine sits at about 18% so its not having to work hard heat wise. In the Euro and Australian versions the P5 only has 4 outputs, but the P10 has 9 as the case is so big. 4 was not enough for me. As the price difference where I live was minimal I opted for the P10. Anthony

Anthony- thanks for the advice. I was hoping to hear from people who have had the opportunity to compare both units.
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Old 05-03-2016, 10:46 AM
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Default Paul's comment.

Also Paul has said many times in various forums the P10 sounds best.
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Old 05-03-2016, 11:56 AM
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Also Paul has said many times in various forums the P10 sounds best.
Dave.......Would you expect Paul McGowan to say anything else? .
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Old 05-03-2016, 12:05 PM
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I think at some point $$$$ permitting I am going to replace at least one of my PPPs with a P10, but I have a new TV, maybe a new PS Audio Dac on the list in front of it. For now my PPPs have been very good units

I think that PS Audio make very good gear, you are going to be very happy with your choice for sure!
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I wanted to jump in and revive this thread as I have debated getting a P5 or P10.

I called Mcintosh to ask specifically if it is necessary to connect my MC402 to a power regenerator (necessitating a P10). Or if it is better to connect the MCAmps to the wall in light of their autoformers, which would make the P5 the obvious choice for front end components only.

I was surprised at Chuck Hinton from Mcintosh tell me that he didn't advise I use ANY power regeneration.

He said in his experience, they altered the sound in an unnatural way.

He also said they had a few units in for repair with blown fuses, due to being connected to power regenerators.

I was very surprised to hear this and was curious if any other folks with P5's or P10's and Mcintosh combos.

I am still interested in hearing what this could do in my system, but I'll admit I'm now a bit nervous after talking to Chuck at Mcintosh.
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I wanted to jump in and revive this thread as I have debated getting a P5 or P10.
He said in his experience, they altered the sound in an unnatural way.

I am still interested in hearing what this could do in my system, but I'll admit I'm now a bit nervous after talking to Chuck at Mcintosh.
Glad to provide user feedback on this:
The P10 has been one of the most significant upgrades I've ever made.
No lag time in note response, fast, immediate, its glorious.
Zero issues on 4 McIntosh components that are connected (or any other brands).
Been using for 14 months. Highly recommended.

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I wanted to jump in and revive this thread as I have debated getting a P5 or P10.

I called Mcintosh to ask specifically if it is necessary to connect my MC402 to a power regenerator (necessitating a P10). Or if it is better to connect the MCAmps to the wall in light of their autoformers, which would make the P5 the obvious choice for front end components only.

I was surprised at Chuck Hinton from Mcintosh tell me that he didn't advise I use ANY power regeneration.

He said in his experience, they altered the sound in an unnatural way.

He also said they had a few units in for repair with blown fuses, due to being connected to power regenerators.

I was very surprised to hear this and was curious if any other folks with P5's or P10's and Mcintosh combos.

I am still interested in hearing what this could do in my system, but I'll admit I'm now a bit nervous after talking to Chuck at Mcintosh.
Chuck always says "don't use any power conditioner"... unless of course you are using their MPC1500.

I have no less than 30 Mac amps all connected thru PS Audio power regenerators for the last 15+ years; zero issues.
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