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I respect your opinion, no problem...
Only one question: have you ever listened to the sub25 or a sub2? |
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I own SB16 and F110. SB16 only wins when it comes to power, so I use it purely for HT. F110s blend in seamlessly when playing music.
One thing I don’t understand is I set the low pass filter frequency and slope the same, but SB16 simply cannot blend in well at all. |
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No, I haven't. I've listened to HSU, REL, JL Audio, Martin Logan, SVS, Earthquake, Wilson Audio, and Paradigm subs.
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SVS SB16 compared to JL Audio F113v2
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Han, There is also a time function you need to leverage in order to blend in a sub. JL Audio subs either need to be closer to you by about 6-9’ or you need to use the phase adjustment on the sub to insure the wave front of the sub, arrives at your listening position as the main speakers. The JL Audio subs have an electronic delay in them that requires they be closer to you. However, you can speed up their sound by using the phase adjustment. Try this. Reverse your speakers cable connections on the speaker closest to your sub. Disconnect the other main speaker. Play a 80Hz test signal of you can find one. Then place your ear half way between your sub and the speaker you reversed the connections to. Then adjust the phase on the JLAudio Sub until you hear a null or significant reduction in that signal. It means you have time aligned those two speakers. Reconnect your other speaker and correctly connect the main speaker you had reversed the speaker cables on. You should have tighter bass with bass notes all sounding distinct. You want to avoid ‘one note’ bass!! Failing that, find the Sound Doctor on the web and get his test disc and instructions on how to blend in a sub.
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A comparison of the SUB25 with the F113 on the web:
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Helps if you have a helper to adjust the phase control if you can’t reach it! Move it a lot to hear what happens and then zero in on the minimum or null.
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crwilli
The term 'one note bass' isn't a compliment. It is a criticism denoting that the bass response sounds like one single note on the musical scale. From your description it sounds like the procedure you outline provides quality bass, which is anything but one note bass. Congratulations and thanks for explaining the procedure |
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You are correct of course. I used the wrong term. ‘One note’ bass is what we are trying to avoid.
What was going through my mind was ‘hearing all the notes’, as distinct sounds. For example, as Wasserman goes up and down his standup bass on ‘The Ballad of A Runaway Horse’. Instead of one note, I should have said Distinct notes. Thank you for the correction!!!
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