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best way to install spikes on 800D?
I need to get these speakers of of the casters to tighten up that last little bit of midbass. They are in a spot where the best possible way would be to lean them forward but I can not think of a way to do it without having to lay them on the drivers. Of coarse that is not an option. I was thinking using the packing material due to it is formed for the head and top portion of the speaker but if it is not strapped it can release once on the carpet and that would be bad. It would probably be easier to stick some rollerblocks under there but I have always had good luck improving the sound with spikes so I want to try them, plus I like the ability to level the speaker. The speakers are close to 300lbs so once they are spiked they have to be stood up and are not going to be able to be moved. Any suggestions will be appreciated.
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Lou... Krell EVO 707, Krell EVO 600(3), B&W 800D, B&W HTM1D, Submersive F2(4), SOtM tX-USBexp>>Berkeley Alpha USB>>Berkeley Alpha DAC2, PsAudio PPP, PsAudio Soloist Premier SE..Nordost(CAST), Cardas clear, Shunyata, Billy Bags, Symposium, GIK acoustics\IEM:Westone ES5, Cypher Labs Algorhythm Solo, RSA SR-71B, Toxic Cables |
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use pillows &
friends, neighbors or hired backs from the labor/move services category on craigslist
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I have read people say that they use pillows but I always assume that they are laying them on there side. I have a wall almost 4' on one side of them and mono's and a center on there other, sideways wont fly. Are you are saying use pillows under the drivers? I would have to see that done before taking that gamble. I cant imagine not damaging the dust cap doing it that way. Wonder if it would be possible to tilt them forward and get them up on some kind of blocks to get under them and spike them... dangerous though.
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Lou... Krell EVO 707, Krell EVO 600(3), B&W 800D, B&W HTM1D, Submersive F2(4), SOtM tX-USBexp>>Berkeley Alpha USB>>Berkeley Alpha DAC2, PsAudio PPP, PsAudio Soloist Premier SE..Nordost(CAST), Cardas clear, Shunyata, Billy Bags, Symposium, GIK acoustics\IEM:Westone ES5, Cypher Labs Algorhythm Solo, RSA SR-71B, Toxic Cables |
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Here is a quick snapshot. No wiggle room. It dosent look it but it sounds exelent in this old room.
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Lou... Krell EVO 707, Krell EVO 600(3), B&W 800D, B&W HTM1D, Submersive F2(4), SOtM tX-USBexp>>Berkeley Alpha USB>>Berkeley Alpha DAC2, PsAudio PPP, PsAudio Soloist Premier SE..Nordost(CAST), Cardas clear, Shunyata, Billy Bags, Symposium, GIK acoustics\IEM:Westone ES5, Cypher Labs Algorhythm Solo, RSA SR-71B, Toxic Cables |
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We need to invent a speaker jack for just such an occasion.
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Wonder if I could just move the amps and tilt it enough to one side to get two spikes screwed in as far as they go then tilt it the other way and do the same. Could turn out to be an expensive experiment. Plus those amps aren't all that mobile either when you cant get any leverage from space constraints.
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Lou... Krell EVO 707, Krell EVO 600(3), B&W 800D, B&W HTM1D, Submersive F2(4), SOtM tX-USBexp>>Berkeley Alpha USB>>Berkeley Alpha DAC2, PsAudio PPP, PsAudio Soloist Premier SE..Nordost(CAST), Cardas clear, Shunyata, Billy Bags, Symposium, GIK acoustics\IEM:Westone ES5, Cypher Labs Algorhythm Solo, RSA SR-71B, Toxic Cables |
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wpines suggestion is good. Would be very interested in hearing about the results. With that much mass, would spikes make as much difference as they would with lighter speakers? My 803s are just light enough to pick up & move if you're careful.
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Lou,
You're right about the wiggle room; any way you look at it, you'll need a couple buddies IMO.
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Sources: Vinyl: Clearaudio Innovation Wood turntable with 9" Universal tonearm, Da Vinci V2 cartridge, Stillpoints SS & Stillpoints clamp, McIntosh MVP 901, Apple Mac mini via Benchmark DAC 1, Aurender N100C via Schiit Yggdrasil Control: McIntosh C1100, Mcintosh MX151 Power: Mcintosh MC2301s (front), McIntosh MC501 (center), Mcintosh MC402 (rear) Speakers: Sonus Faber Amati Futura (front and back), SF Vox center Power/connections: PS Audio Power Port receptacles, RGPC 400 pro (2) WireWorld interconnects and speaker cable |
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If you want to experiment off the casters-
Agora Acoustics Magic Hexa Agora Acoustics Magic Hexa (set 4 pcs) Symposium Rollerblock Junior HDSE Symposium Acoustics: Sound Anchor B&W 801 D SPEAKER STANDS Nice system you have there.....go with Sound Anchor bases built for your speakers. Legend Audio & Video is a Sound Anchor dealer and Symposium dealer. PM "MasterLu" |
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Quote:
I used to pull my guitar rig from the side to the middle of the room to play but got tired of that so I just took the casters off of the cab and left it on the side and the improvement in the bottom end was substantial. I was reading the write up by someone from Symposium and he even suggested that if a speaker has a specially made plinth you should use the spikes and use one of there isolation shelves or pads under it. I would be willing to give the rollerblocks a try if the spikes don't give me that slight improvement I am looking for. Having everything so close is not helping things either even know the room is well treated. I have listened to the 800Ds with a boulder and ayre setup in a optimum room for listening and all I am missing is some depth and separation from the tight setup. The 600's can move the drivers well so bass is not an issue. Spiking should tighten up the midbass like I hope and I mean it only needs it ever so slightly to my ear. I have seen numerous 802D's with sound anchor stands and the people always have positive things to say about the improvement but I have never seen a 800D on them.
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Lou... Krell EVO 707, Krell EVO 600(3), B&W 800D, B&W HTM1D, Submersive F2(4), SOtM tX-USBexp>>Berkeley Alpha USB>>Berkeley Alpha DAC2, PsAudio PPP, PsAudio Soloist Premier SE..Nordost(CAST), Cardas clear, Shunyata, Billy Bags, Symposium, GIK acoustics\IEM:Westone ES5, Cypher Labs Algorhythm Solo, RSA SR-71B, Toxic Cables |
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