We're as good as it gets: Intelligent life is extremely UNLIKELY

[PHC1]

I have already posted the "fine tuning of the universe" discussion with our most brilliant scientific minds. There are plenty of great youtube interview videos on that.

Here is another very interesting article. In my mind it is directly related to the same topic although it is worded differently. The main point here is not that "intelligent life" is extremely rare, they have to word it so as not to draw attention to the extremely unlikely odds that WE ourselves are here....

The rest is up to you to decide (creator? matrix? Simulated reality? Pure luck with extremely unlikely odds of abiogenesis and evolution?)

Oxford researchers outline the various evolutionary steps to human existence
These steps take longer than a planet is actually habitable before its star dies
What's happened on Earth is unlikely typical of what happens on other planets

Read it carefully and think about how unlikely or unreasonably and illogically lucky we are...

In a new paper, Oxford researchers theorise that, for life to evolve in the same way elsewhere in the universe, it would take longer than the whole of Earth's projected lifespan.


https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencet...7kXqrDH-z_uPnQ

[Cohibaman]

Unlikely as it is that we even exist, it’s arrogant to think that we are the only intelligent life.

[PHC1]

Originally Posted by Cohibaman

Unlikely as it is that we even exist, it’s arrogant to think that we are the only intelligent life.

Hence the age old question. If there are others like us, then we can be comfortable with universal "status quo". Life happens...

If we are truly alone however, well..... then that opens up a whole can of all kinds of questions.

[Grasshopper]

I'm still trying to find signs of intelligent life here.

LOL.

OK, not exactly true, but I crack myself up.

I'm of the mindset that we are not alone in the universe - pretty big place.

[PHC1]

Originally Posted by Grasshopper

I'm still trying to find signs of intelligent life here.

LOL.

OK, not exactly true, but I crack myself up.

I'm of the mindset that we are not alone in the universe - pretty big place.

Anyone capable of reaching us at this point would probably say exactly that!

[Grasshopper]

Originally Posted by PHC1

Anyone capable of reaching us at this point would probably say exactly that!

[bigblue]

In what way does mankind make a positive contribution to this planet?
I can't think of a single one - but I am open to suggestions.

[PHC1]

Originally Posted by bigblue

In what way does mankind make a positive contribution to this planet?
I can't think of a single one - but I am open to suggestions.

We don't. Never did. Evolution was a curse. If it wasn't for us, all the other "less intelligent" creatures would go on living in perfect harmony forever. Say it isn't so!

[crwilli]

Originally Posted by PHC1

We don't. Never did. Evolution was a curse. If it wasn't for us, all the other "less intelligent" creatures would go on living in perfect harmony forever. Say it isn't so!

I guess perfect harmony is a matter of perspective. Even without humans, babies of all kinds would be snatched from their nests, from their mothers arms, out of their shells and killed - eaten by another animal.

Chaos is the natural world of kill to survive.

[PHC1]

Originally Posted by crwilli

I guess perfect harmony is a matter of perspective. Even without humans, babies of all kinds would be snatched from their nests, from their mothers arms, out of their shells and killed - eaten by another animal.

Chaos is the natural world of kill to survive.

That's nature's balance. Nature always had a way of balancing things out. Predators never bread in large numbers but mice did...

Don't forget we have been here for a few hundred thousand years and Earth was absolutely fine without us. In fact our predecessors, before they were genetically tweaked have been living in harmony for hundreds of millions of years.

This planet is 4 Billion years old... We've managed to do quite a bit of damage to the oceans and forests as well as making many species go extinct by overhunting. That's only a few hundred thousand years... and a few hundred to do the damage. Once we are gone, (if that ever happens) nature will wipe the slate clean of us as if we never existed within a few thousand years. Everything will be dust and return to dust.