Bybee Golden Goddess "Super Effect" Speaker Bullets

[Masterlu]

[Jerome W]

Originally Posted by jdandy

Jim.......I am in the "more direct approach" camp. I don't believe any additional circuits are necessary between the outputs of very clean amps and the speaker terminals. I don't buy into the necessity of altering the speaker cable's capacitance and/or resistance, and/or inductance, or all of the above. I prefer my silver plated OCC copper conductors connected direct from the amplifier terminals to the speaker terminals. My view about all of these boxes is they act as a tone control, altering the signal between the amp and the speakers in a quest for the elusive mystical improvements. I have no doubt they make a difference, but is that difference a good thing or just different. I don't want or need any of this. In my mind it isn't worth the asking price, even for those who embrace the magic box concept, to alter a clean signal on its way from the amp to the speaker. That's my opinion of course, and others may or may not concur. Either way, I'm good with my position.

Dan.....

You need the "Mind Purifier" to be able to understand the effect of such pieces.
it is sold in all good audio stores for the modest price of 3699 dollars.
It is a black tiny soft component placed in the middle of a pillow and it acts when you sleep. After a few weeks of treatment, your mind is ready to accept all the strange improving sound products that you can find on the market.

[chessman]

At one point or another each of us was derisive of speaker cables mattering. Or isolation working. Let's wait on the report from the two fellows doing the auditions and see what they say.

[MyPal]

Originally Posted by jdandy

Jim.......I am in the "more direct approach" camp. I don't believe any additional circuits are necessary between the outputs of very clean amps and the speaker terminals. I don't buy into the necessity of altering the speaker cable's capacitance and/or resistance, and/or inductance, or all of the above. I prefer my silver plated OCC copper conductors connected direct from the amplifier terminals to the speaker terminals. My view about all of these boxes is they act as a tone control, altering the signal between the amp and the speakers in a quest for the elusive mystical improvements. I have no doubt they make a difference, but is that difference a good thing or just different. I don't want or need any of this. In my mind it isn't worth the asking price, even for those who embrace the magic box concept, to alter a clean signal on its way from the amp to the speaker. That's my opinion of course, and others may or may not concur. Either way, I'm good with my position.

+1, give me silver plated OCC & Teflon tubing braided with flexo conductive any day.

We took the time to visit the MIT stand at the recent Melbourne HIFi show to look at the passive "pole" hierarchy. I was presented with the $65k Oracle loudspeaker cable "system". Their reference loudspeaker cable was hooked up to a pair of $6k loudspeakers. I asked the rep 2 questions:

1. How could anyone justify spending $65k for a pair of loudspeaker cables to drive a set of $6k speakers?
2. Can you open the alloy box so we can take a look at how the cable run is joined together?

Unsurprisingly, He couldn't answer neither question, but thought there were magnets of sorts inside.

IMO, MIT is a crock of bull. The $6k speakers still sounded ordinary. Do MIT do carbolic smoke-balls too?

Has anyone here actually cracked open a MIT black box with a grinder or sledgehammer or something, even a $500 3-pole box? How about hack-sawing open a bybee box? Maybe, they're just full of bond-crete?

Does anyone have any MIT black-box pics to show?

I know, let's start a hack-saw fund so that we can get to the bottom of the illusion... I'll be happy to throw the first $50 bucks into the fund just for the laugh...

[MyPal]

Originally Posted by jdandy

Ivan.......The only thing missing from that Bybee product name is they should have replaced "Super Effect" with "Supercallafrajalistic Expialadocious". It might be more believable then.

Sorry, I couldn't resist.

Pardon my ignorance, but perhaps they work just like "the 3 sea-shells" - John Spartan No apologies here, whatever floats your boat but I challenge the consensus to prove objectively otherwise.

[Masterlu]

If you own the Bybee products feel free to comment, otherwise post being considerate.

[MyPal]

Originally Posted by Masterlu

If you own the Bybee products feel free to comment, otherwise post being considerate.

I do look forward to reading the evaluations of this post & do not mean to disparage the thread... It is light hearted banter with a purpose to foster this discussion. Nevertheless, this is a gray, nebulous & highly subjective area of the AV industry that deserves scrutiny especially for the benefit of unsuspecting buyers being sold on the hype. Clearly, when it comes to black-box, there are 2 schools of thought here. As such, I don't mind copping it on the chin especially if there is qualitative science that is being demonstrated behind the product.

[Face]

Originally Posted by jdandy

My view about all of these boxes is they act as a tone control, altering the signal between the amp and the speakers in a quest for the elusive mystical improvements. I have no doubt they make a difference, but is that difference a good thing or just different.

Dan, they're "tone controls" as much as your Silver Eclipse 6's are. If not, we'd all be using lamp cord.

[jostber]

What Do those Bybee Things Do, Anyway?

Bybee Golden Goddess 'Super Effect' Speaker Bullets: Beyond Tweaking Review By Wayne Donnelly

[MyPal]

Originally Posted by jostber

What Do those Bybee Things Do, Anyway?

Bybee Golden Goddess 'Super Effect' Speaker Bullets: Beyond Tweaking Review By Wayne Donnelly

I have seen this review & it makes an interesting read. The purported technology is somewhat vague. "Gets rid of noise that we cannot hear". I would be very surprised to learn if Bybee has in fact managed to develop a manufacturing process to scale CNTs for the purposes of super symmetrical electrical conductivity.

CNT loudspeaker cables instead of traditional copper derivatives. Now if that becomes a technical realization, then of course it would be revolutionary...