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Old 09-30-2012, 08:25 AM
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Default Goodbye Paganini Transport?

I never thought I would even consider this but I can't think of a good reason to keep my CD transport. I download all my music these days. My whole collection is on a hard drive. So the proposal is this: Trade the transport permanently and use the funds to upgrade the DAC and clock to Vivaldi. Has anyone else out there dumped their transport and committed to all digital?

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Old 09-30-2012, 08:32 AM
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I never thought I would even consider this but I can't think of a good reason to keep my CD transport. I download all my music these days. My whole collection is on a hard drive. So the proposal is this: Trade the transport permanently and use the funds to upgrade the DAC and clock to Vivaldi. Has anyone else out there dumped their transport and committed to all digital?

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Old 09-30-2012, 08:41 AM
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Like Jerome, I don't have a transport either. Haven't used one in years. I do however sometimes miss being able to pop in a CD and get it playing quickly without having to get everything up and running.
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Old 09-30-2012, 08:59 AM
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I have done this as I've gone all digital. For an alternative I bought the OPPO 95 as my multi-player, no regrets.
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I know of someone who has a 2 box dCS Puccini and is headed in the direction you mention -- a 2 box Vivaldi (DAC & Clock). Wheels are in motion & quite a few Audiophiles have these thoughts of skipping the expensive transport.

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Old 09-30-2012, 09:17 AM
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I never thought I would even consider this but I can't think of a good reason to keep my CD transport. I download all my music these days. My whole collection is on a hard drive. So the proposal is this: Trade the transport permanently and use the funds to upgrade the DAC and clock to Vivaldi. Has anyone else out there dumped their transport and committed to all digital?

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I dumped my transport over 4 years ago and went the mini route. Then a couple of months ago I bought a transport. I use both a lot the transport for critical and casual listening the mini for casual listening and sampling new music. Both are great the transport is better. At the dac/transport level you are at you should surely here a difference between the two.At least I do with my setup. I know for simplicity the mini and the ipad are the way to go.But if you have a well organize cd system it's easy. All I do is look on the ipad what I want to listen and open the drawer and grab the cd from alphabet artist labeled system.
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Old 09-30-2012, 09:22 AM
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I still like CDs.
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Old 09-30-2012, 10:51 AM
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If you sell (and not replace) your transport in the hopes of upgrading (selling and replacing) your clock and DAC, you probably will be at a monetary loss.

If you want to eliminate the transport and upgrade the clock and DAC, you will probably do better selling the whole stack and upgrading and purchasing only the components you want since your buyer will more than likely want an entire stack. At least that's how I see it.

By the way, I still like CDs. I would keep the transport.
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I never thought I would even consider this but I can't think of a good reason to keep my CD transport. I download all my music these days. My whole collection is on a hard drive. So the proposal is this: Trade the transport permanently and use the funds to upgrade the DAC and clock to Vivaldi. Has anyone else out there dumped their transport and committed to all digital?
Cincy.......In my opinion, the biggest bottleneck for downloading music is the extremely limited catalog of available artists and titles. I'm not talking about MP3 or iTunes crap, I'm talking about recorded quality that begins at 16Bit/44.1 and goes up from there, preferably 24Bit/96kHz and above. There are some fine selections available for download, but compared to what is readily available on compact disc worldwide it doesn't amount to a single drop in a 50 gallon barrel. If and when the available download catalog nears the current CD database total, then scraping a transport might be an alternative. Until such time, I will be keeping my transports.
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Cincy.......In my opinion, the biggest bottleneck for downloading music is the extremely limited catalog of available artists and titles. I'm not talking about MP3 or iTunes crap, I'm talking about recorded quality that begins at 16Bit/44.1 and goes up from there, preferably 24Bit/96kHz and above. There are some fine selections available for download, but compared to what is readily available on compact disc worldwide it doesn't amount to a single drop in a 50 gallon barrel. If and when the available download catalog nears the current CD database total, then scraping a transport might be an alternative. Until such time, I will be keeping my transports.
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You hit the nail right on the head. Good post.

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