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Innovation - speed drop
The speed of my Innovation turntable reduced as much as 10% after a couple of weeks and each time I need to re-oiled the shaft to get back to the actual speed.
Just wonder any owner of this turntable encountered such problem. Thank You |
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I own two of them, and never experienced such an event.
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Didn't really hear the difference in sonic at reduced revolutions and if not for the strobe gun, I wouldn't notice the drop in speed. It is supposed to be a closed loop DC speed control and in general better than any typical ac drive unit. Will get a external ac motor unit to test out the turning table.
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Did you made the break-in period?
I recommend you to spin the platter at least 4 nights and then check the speed accuracy. I also recommend you to check the wow/flutter values (you can use the Adjust+ LP and App of Dr Feickert) to get more information. Maybe there is a problem in the axis or some kind of rub |
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I have written to Clearaudio yesterday evening and awaiting for their reply. Meanwhile will try your recommendation... Thank You |
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I was playing home some months ago a Thales turntable and it had an axis problem (not straight) and wow/flutter values were too high. After some repairing time by the manufacturer it now plays perfectly.
They usually are fast answering (no more than 24hours). Good luck |
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Clearaudio recently introduced their ACCU Drive for the innovation series. It is a battery powered power supply for innovation. Presumably much better pitch stability and a possibly quieter motor which translates to a lower noise floor. I will have mine this Tuesday and will report back.
Power generators | clearaudio Accu Drive | clean power, controlled speed, synchronous motor, problems, constant, turntable, Emotion, Emotion SE, Performance, Performance SE I have never heard of the bearing needed to be oiled so much. Are you sure nothing is rubbing or if you have too much weight via a clamp and outer ring perhaps the magnetic bearing suspension has been maxed out ? also, make sure the table is level. If you still have issues, get it serviced. The motor may be going bad.
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They finally found the problem and had the speed sensor and control card replaced last week. I got back the turntable last Saturday and happily spinning my favourite vinly over the weekend
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rockitman, did you get the Accu Drive? Very interesting upgrade.
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