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Ref 110 hot resistors
I seem to be going through a phase of trails & tribulations with the ref 110's . Managed to purchased a matched octet of of Winged C 6550s after trying out other tubes that did not work for me.
Now, I just discovered a bank of resistors near the front right portion of the amp are very hot. 100 deg C or thereabouts. How can this be ? Both my ref 110s are like this. Anyone care to share or check their ref 110 ? Regards, Joe Ling
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Source 1 - Bergmann Sleipner + Benz Micro LP-S + ARC ref phono 10 (should have done this ages ago) Source 2 - Avid Acutus SP reference + Thales Reference tone arm + Benz Micro LPS (DS Audio Master 1 broken tip repaired but cost me USD2k. Still having issues - channel imbalance - back to dealer. However, channel issues not withstanding, sounded very very nice. Need to get it back soonest) Source 3 - DCS Vivaldi + Antelope reference clock or Cybershaft Op18 (not floating my boat so far) Source 5 - ROON ROCK with Aurender W20 as NAS & 2 units of SOTM switch with 10M input (the new frontier but still cannot beat CD for now) - ROON endpoint - Vivaldi upsampler Amplification - Naim Statement Speakers - ProAc Carbon 8 + JL FM113 x2 (replacement purchased - Stella Utopia EVO but due to lockdown, could be a year's wait) Purepower 2000 x 2 (&$@#% but sounds nice) Shunyata Denali X 2 |
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Did you see my email in the tube replacement issues? Your resistors and screen may have blown. In that case it will need replacement. Talk to ARC directly about this.
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Hi,
Yep your mail has been quite helpful thanks. Noticed 2 blown resistors & cannibalised the other unit to have them replaced but temp still the same. My dealer working with factory on this. Hopefully to get some answers soon. In the meantime, enjoyed a good session last night. Been a while since the saga of worn tubes. Rock on !
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Source 1 - Bergmann Sleipner + Benz Micro LP-S + ARC ref phono 10 (should have done this ages ago) Source 2 - Avid Acutus SP reference + Thales Reference tone arm + Benz Micro LPS (DS Audio Master 1 broken tip repaired but cost me USD2k. Still having issues - channel imbalance - back to dealer. However, channel issues not withstanding, sounded very very nice. Need to get it back soonest) Source 3 - DCS Vivaldi + Antelope reference clock or Cybershaft Op18 (not floating my boat so far) Source 5 - ROON ROCK with Aurender W20 as NAS & 2 units of SOTM switch with 10M input (the new frontier but still cannot beat CD for now) - ROON endpoint - Vivaldi upsampler Amplification - Naim Statement Speakers - ProAc Carbon 8 + JL FM113 x2 (replacement purchased - Stella Utopia EVO but due to lockdown, could be a year's wait) Purepower 2000 x 2 (&$@#% but sounds nice) Shunyata Denali X 2 |
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Factory replied saying it's normal. Hmm, this is good news right ?
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Source 1 - Bergmann Sleipner + Benz Micro LP-S + ARC ref phono 10 (should have done this ages ago) Source 2 - Avid Acutus SP reference + Thales Reference tone arm + Benz Micro LPS (DS Audio Master 1 broken tip repaired but cost me USD2k. Still having issues - channel imbalance - back to dealer. However, channel issues not withstanding, sounded very very nice. Need to get it back soonest) Source 3 - DCS Vivaldi + Antelope reference clock or Cybershaft Op18 (not floating my boat so far) Source 5 - ROON ROCK with Aurender W20 as NAS & 2 units of SOTM switch with 10M input (the new frontier but still cannot beat CD for now) - ROON endpoint - Vivaldi upsampler Amplification - Naim Statement Speakers - ProAc Carbon 8 + JL FM113 x2 (replacement purchased - Stella Utopia EVO but due to lockdown, could be a year's wait) Purepower 2000 x 2 (&$@#% but sounds nice) Shunyata Denali X 2 |
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The 3 resistor set from the ARC factory costs less than $10 per set. You should keep a stock of them with you since you have 2 amps. Did you buy the KT120 tubes from ARC? I'm curious why you did not prefer it over the 6550.
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I bought the kt120 from eBay. Even after 100hrs, I felt that they sounded shrill with sibilance. Not my cup of tea. Then again, I had ref 210 briefly & did not like them at all. Much preferred the ref 110.
Anyway, the moment I inserted the fresh winged 'c' 6550's, all is well again. Regards, Joe Ping
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Source 1 - Bergmann Sleipner + Benz Micro LP-S + ARC ref phono 10 (should have done this ages ago) Source 2 - Avid Acutus SP reference + Thales Reference tone arm + Benz Micro LPS (DS Audio Master 1 broken tip repaired but cost me USD2k. Still having issues - channel imbalance - back to dealer. However, channel issues not withstanding, sounded very very nice. Need to get it back soonest) Source 3 - DCS Vivaldi + Antelope reference clock or Cybershaft Op18 (not floating my boat so far) Source 5 - ROON ROCK with Aurender W20 as NAS & 2 units of SOTM switch with 10M input (the new frontier but still cannot beat CD for now) - ROON endpoint - Vivaldi upsampler Amplification - Naim Statement Speakers - ProAc Carbon 8 + JL FM113 x2 (replacement purchased - Stella Utopia EVO but due to lockdown, could be a year's wait) Purepower 2000 x 2 (&$@#% but sounds nice) Shunyata Denali X 2 |
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I have just installed a new Ref 210 with KT 120s in my system and its sounding compressed and a bit lifeless, but definitely not shrill with sibilance. Rather, warmer and richer than the Ref 110. I am upgrading my electrical circuits now and hoping to set things right. |
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The resistors you have pointed out look normal to me, they are not discolorred, nor do they look burnt. That said I haven't seen a schematic or measured them with a VOM.
If you are still worried power down and unplug your gear, wait some time for the power supply to bleed-off its charge. Measure them via the values listed on the schematic or get a copy of the resistor color code (standard) to determine their value. You may have to remove the tube/tubes associated with these resistors to get an accurate reading.
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Thanks guys for your suggestions.
Regards, Joe Ling
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Source 1 - Bergmann Sleipner + Benz Micro LP-S + ARC ref phono 10 (should have done this ages ago) Source 2 - Avid Acutus SP reference + Thales Reference tone arm + Benz Micro LPS (DS Audio Master 1 broken tip repaired but cost me USD2k. Still having issues - channel imbalance - back to dealer. However, channel issues not withstanding, sounded very very nice. Need to get it back soonest) Source 3 - DCS Vivaldi + Antelope reference clock or Cybershaft Op18 (not floating my boat so far) Source 5 - ROON ROCK with Aurender W20 as NAS & 2 units of SOTM switch with 10M input (the new frontier but still cannot beat CD for now) - ROON endpoint - Vivaldi upsampler Amplification - Naim Statement Speakers - ProAc Carbon 8 + JL FM113 x2 (replacement purchased - Stella Utopia EVO but due to lockdown, could be a year's wait) Purepower 2000 x 2 (&$@#% but sounds nice) Shunyata Denali X 2 |
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