Magico Q7: "most impressive product in 23 years of TAS reviews"

[jazzman]

Cannot agree more on TAS review!! In particular on the chameleon nature of this speaker. You really need to listen to it with different sources to understand what an achievement the Q7 is.
See full review here:
http://www.ultrahighendreview.com/ma...loudspeaker-2/

[jazzhead]

It may be the cat's whiskers , but stating that the lamm 2.2 drove it well is hard to believe. I have posted in the Lamm forum on how on how un- involving a pairing the Q7 and the ML3 proved, and am sure it would be unlikely that an amp lower down the hierarchy would prove to be better performing .

[jazzhead]

Originally Posted by tima

I know nothing about Magico Q7s.

There is much one might claim is 'down the hierarchy' from the Lamm ML3. However, the single-ended Lamm ML3 amplifier (32 Watts into 4 Ohms) and the hybrid Lamm 2.2 (440 Watts into 4 Ohms, Class A) are such different devices that speculating a conclusion about one based on the other does a disservice to both.

When I meant down the hierarchy ,it was with reference to amps having similar topologies . I think you have the models mixed up . The 2.2 is a single ended triode in the vein of the ML3 , whereas the the amp which you probably are referring to is the ML1.2 which is a hybrid solid state MOS-FET output stage device, rated at 110watts @4ohms Class A.

As far as disservice goes , it is the pairing that reflects both products in a poor light . I am sure that paired with a kinder load the Lamms would breathe more
freely and imbibe the mid-range with the magic triodes are know to be capable of .

Seasons Best,

Jazzhead.

[redm]

...we have given the Q7 our Overall Product of the
Year award for 2012. This honor goes to the single most impressive product
we’ve encountered in the previous year. I’ll take that several steps further to
say the Q7 is the single most impressive product—in any category—that
I’ve come across in more than 23 years of full-time reviewing. Even for
those of us who can never afford the Q7, it’s inspiring and gratifying to
know that the state of the art in loudspeaker technology has been moved
so far forward.

Honestly, for $185k a pair, I would expect nothing less then the best speaker I've ever heard... or in this case, may never hear

[Mikado463]

Originally Posted by redm

Honestly, for $185k a pair, I would expect nothing less then the best speaker I've ever heard...

Amen to that !

[jazzman]

Originally Posted by redm

Honestly, for $185k a pair, I would expect nothing less then the best speaker I've ever heard... or in this case, may never hear

go to any big hifi show and you would be surprised by the number of 150-200k pair of speakers on show... and the number of them being not worth the money. Take the XLF for example: a pair of S5 at less than 30k sounds way better. And measures also way better.

Compare the Q7 to other speakers in the same price range, and you would be shocked how much they are revolutionary (I listened to nearly everything from major makers... the Q7 is in a category in its own)

[Mikado463]

Originally Posted by jazzman

go to any big hifi show and you would be surprised by the number of 150-200k pair of speakers on show... and the number of them being not worth the money. Take the XLF for example: a pair of S5 at less than 30k sounds way better.

I'll be the first to agree that very few of the speakers in that range really wow me, with that being said a show enviroment is rarely the place to hear such product.

As for stating that the S5 is 'way better' than the Wilson XLF is your opinion and that's fine but have you heard the two in the same acoustical enviroment ? FWIW, give me a pair of Logan CLX's and a couple of good subs over the S5 any day .......hell I'll take the Logan combo over the Q5 ! and yes I have listened to all the above in the same listening enviroment (Overture, Wilmington, De)

the Q7 is in a category in its own

so I've read, looking forward to hearing them soon.

[rlacoste]

Originally Posted by Mikado463

As for stating that the S5 is 'way better' than the Wilson XLF is your opinion and that's fine but have you heard the two in the same acoustical enviroment ? FWIW, give me a pair of Logan CLX's and a couple of good subs over the S5 any day .......hell I'll take the Logan combo over the Q5 ! and yes I have listened to all the above in the same listening enviroment (Overture, Wilmington, De)

so I've read, looking forward to hearing them soon.

If you can do with the discontinuity of a sub, not to mentioned mating with the CLX (colored, and anemic on their own) then you shouldn’t be bother with any of the Magico lineup.

[Mikado463]

Originally Posted by rlacoste

If you can do with the discontinuity of a sub, not to mentioned mating with the CLX (colored, and anemic on their own) then you shouldn’t be bother with any of the Magico lineup.

again.....thanks for reminding us that you haven't had the pleassure of listening to a properly set up system. To think that in this day and age with the quality of subs and the integration afforded them that they cannot be properly married to ones system is ridiculous.

[jrsystems]

Originally Posted by rlacoste

If you can do with the discontinuity of a sub, not to mentioned mating with the CLX (colored, and anemic on their own) then you shouldn’t be bother with any of the Magico lineup.

The CLXes have their issues, but they are only as colored as what you feed them. Not sure what you mean by anemic either, the whole problem with mating them to a sub is that they are so fast and accurate.