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804ds in 13 X 22 foot room
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Old Tex,
For what it's worth I auditioned the 803s (used), N802 (used), PMC Ob1i (used), 804D and 803 Diamond (current version) at my home. My room is 34'x15' with a ceiling that is 8' at one end and rises to 15' and back down to 12' so there is a lot of volume. Of that group I liked the 803 Diamond for a variety of reasons and I have owned them for about a year and I still love them. I am a Bryston guy but McIntosh is also a good pairing with them. As you may be aware they love current so make sure the amp is robust. I listened to the 804D at the dealership in a 20'x10' room with a 8' ceiling, and I really liked them. However, in that same room I still preferred the 803 Diamond. They have since moved the 804D's to a fairly small (12'x10') room and they sound better in that room than the 803 Diamonds that were just too much in there. All of the other speakers were also tested at the dealership in the 20'x10' room. At my house the PMC OB1i and the 804D got lost, they just couldn't fill the room with sound at a reasonable listening level. My better half nixed the N802. I then kept the 803s and 803 Diamonds for a few weeks before deciding to bust my budget for the 803 Diamonds. The used 803s were only about $4,000 and I had a really hard time convincing myself the 803 Diamonds were worth an additional $6,000. I am glad I went the way I did. Good Listening, Mike Last edited by Chicago; 08-04-2013 at 07:46 PM. |
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The 803D is better than the 804D in every way. It is simply a question of budget.
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I don't know how that could be true. They have the exact same 1" diamond tweeter and 6" Kevlar FST midrange. The only difference is in the bass drivers where they use rohacells, the 804D uses 2, 6.5" and the 803D uses 3, 7"
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I wouldn't use a blanket statement such as the 803 is better in every way as some people find the 803 less balanced then the 804 with some experiencing bloated bass with the 803 but so many factors contribute to what we hear from our speakers. Examples are the room size, what's in the room, are there a lot of reflective or absorptive materials in the room, degree of toe in, distances from rear and side walls, inadequate amplification, etc.
Differences in the size of the cabinets, the matrix/bracing design inside the cabinet along with the different sized drivers can all act together to produce different sounds, a slightly different tonality if you will. Remember the mid crosses over to the bass at 350Hz and there is a lot of range below 350Hz that humans can hear so it's just not as straight forward as the 803 is a 804 with better bass extension not to mention the effect the cabinet design has on the mids. I'm not sure of the crossovers but if the cross over components are different as is the case between the 800 and 802 that too can lead to a different sound. |
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Hallo,
I prefer the 804DI. this speaker - with the 805di - is one of the VERY new and not a simple "uograde" of the 803d to 803DI.....the 804s and 805s in the Di tweever version make an amazing difference. I had the 803s, 803d, 803di, 804d and the 802di. The 804di is my fovorit speaker and hve a fine sound much better vs. the 803di. @Blackstone: for me is not a question of budget. I purchase a 804di without a second thought even if the price was the same. Style |
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His room size plays a big roll in sound quality.
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Raidho,
What you call the "804Di" is the 804D which came out about 3 years ago (2010) and sells for $7500 (or the equivalent in other currency), yes? Unlike the 803 series, there was not an 804D in the prior line-up, only an 804S. So I am pretty certain there has only ever been one 804 with a "D" in the name, though some people refer to it as "D" or "Di" or even "D2" to indicate its part of the current line-up as of a few years ago. I was confused because you said you once had the "804d" and now you have the "804di". Did you mean it was the "804s" that you had? -Adam |
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