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Old 03-16-2017, 11:46 AM
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I've experimented with different settings on this DAC. I've found you can subtly change the sound depending on the filter you select on the menu available. My best results were with W4S default setting. Yes. There is a difference and only you can decide what sounds the best to your ears. All DACs run the full frequency spectrum. It's the bells and whistles that accompany them that make the difference. Choosing where you want to run the setting is personal choice. I have run the new OPPO DAC as well with the 9038 Pro and didn't think it's performance was near as good as the DAC1V2. Even with a supposedly "better chip". Again, we all hear differently. Good luck!
Thanks for your posts regarding comparisons of our DAC to others, even products using the 'better' chip. This is what we try to convey as best we can, that off-the-shelf parts do account for certain things, but it's the design and engineering of the overall product that can make a profound difference for the end result!
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Old 03-16-2017, 06:03 PM
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Paul - with respect to frequency response, we are talking about the same thing just in different ways.

It is very interesting that you found the W4S DAC-1V2 better than the OPPO Sonica DAC. I found my DAC-2 DSDse, which was upgraded to the DAC-2v2SE, to be slightly better than the OPPO BDP-105.
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Old 03-17-2017, 11:45 AM
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I now have close to 100 hours on the W4S DAC1V2. The sound has improved even more. No. I am not associated with W4S in any way shape or form. Previous clients and audio friends cannot believe what they are hearing. I had West Side Story being performed in my audio room. Yes. That realistic with stage depth,width,delineation of voices so real people called it spooky! I am that impressed and have never ever heard such analog digital. Thank you Randy for turning me on to W4S and the Remedy as well. It will be the source that determines your SQ with this DAC1v2. My search for audio nirvana is now quenched.
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Dam... now you guys are making me think I need a new W4S DAC... The Benchmark is nice, but sounds like the W4S is even more fantastic.

I actually visited EJ and Tony today to pick up a cable for my Class A amp... EJ was saying I had to try the new DAC.... dammit you guys.... my wife is gonna kill me... lucky that she likes EJ ....
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Old 03-23-2017, 10:50 PM
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Randy - the new W4S DACs are really good. You should really consider trying one out.
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Old 03-24-2017, 01:39 PM
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Randy, I heard the Benchmark as well. HGC3 with 9028PRO. Just had to compare. It's a good unit. Where I believe you'll notice the differences is in the ability of the new W4S V2 Dac to portray a musically superior reproduction of what data you're listening too. Music is more musical,dynamic,analog. Yes analog. No digital signatures. Easy to listen and no listener fatigue ever. Throw in more detail,information retrieval,expanded sound stage front to back and side to side. Well. You get the point. I've been in this business for almost 30 years. I had gotten so jaded to the claims of newer and better that they didn't ring true for me anymore so I rebuilt OEM units with upgraded components. Reason EMOTIVA is equipment I use and find it satisfactory. That being said,between the release of a new chip by ESS that was really a significant upgrade over the previous got me curious. Then having spoken to you my appetite got overwhelming. Plus your suggestion of using the Remedy was well received. THANK YOU Randy! If it weren't for you I'd still be thinking of upgrading speakers, amps,pre, etc. Nope. No more. I believe I've reached my Nirvana with this new DAC. It's that Great! I believe how you implement digital technology is just as important as how great the parts are suppose to be. So many high end Dacs use the same chip but sound different. Parts quality is part of the equation as well as implementation of the circuitry that was designed. Here I have to give the highest kudo's to W4S.
Randy. Give it a try. You'll never know what you missed out on.
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Thank you Paul... The Benchmark with the 9028 Pro chip was definitely significantly better than the previous model with the 9018. I had them side by side for a little while.

I probably will eventually try out the new W4S with the 9038 Pro. I just got to get my wife to a point where another upgrade will not drive her over the top .... There have been a few changes in the year and a half since jumping back into this crazy hobby ....

If I get the W4S I would plan on keeping the Benchmark also. It also serves as my headphone amplifier and would continue as such. I doubt I could find a replacement headphone amplifier as good as this in a similar budget. Being a backup pre-amplifier is also a very good added benefit!

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Paul - are you sure you don't work for Wyred 4 Sound?

Just joking!!!!
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Paul - are you sure you don't work for Wyred 4 Sound?

Just joking!!!!
We can verify that Paul does not work for us. But we do appreciate his feedback!

Thanks Paul

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