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Old 01-09-2016, 05:39 PM
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Definitely.!

I only put grills on my speakers if I have children around, after they leave, grills come off.
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There is better integration with the tweeter. (Not surprising). The soundstage is now slightly larger both front to back and in the sides also. I guess I feel really silly now
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Try this as an experiment: blow on your hand. Then place a grill between your mouth and your hand. Blow again. Notice a difference?

How exactly that effects what you hear I've not researched.

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That's what I figured. I have been listening all along with the grills on. Seems to be a noticeable improvement in the mid/bass without the grills.
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Diononiz; how do the 804D3 sound at very loud volumes?
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Diononiz; how do the 804D3 sound at very loud volumes?
I haven't turned them super loud as I am past the recommend power of 200 watts with my amp and want to make sure I don't overdrive my speakers. (My McIntosh MC302 puts out 300 Watts/channel). The loudest I have turned up my preamp was to about 52 which was crazy loud for a party. They sounded great but it really depends on how large your room is. My room is not very large as it is about 22 X 25 and the 804D3's do really well at that volume.
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Try this as an experiment: blow on your hand. Then place a grill between your mouth and your hand. Blow again. Notice a difference?

How exactly that effects what you hear I've not researched.

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Grilles are for protection only in most loudspeakers. There are exceptions, however, such as the ATC SCM 50 Actives.
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Definitely.!

I only put grills on my speakers if I have children around, after they leave, grills come off.

Including the tweeter grille?

No problem with listening "naked" but I would feel slightly uncomfortable if the diamond tweeter wasn't wearing protection.
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Including the tweeter grille?

No problem with listening "naked" but I would feel slightly uncomfortable if the diamond tweeter wasn't wearing protection.
I'm not sure the tweeter grille can come off the new models.
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I'm not sure the tweeter grille can come off the new models.
Yes, I thought it was fixed.
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Old 01-12-2016, 07:54 AM
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Just to clarify, the tweeter protector I never remove for listening. The grills covering the mid and bass drivers I do remove.

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