Original Cremona or Cremona Auditor M

[cmalak]

Herb...if you are getting a nice wide soundstage firing them almost straight ahead with good center fill and pin point imaging, then for added depth, I would bring them in a little bit further into the room and away from the rear wall. The trade-off there is that you may lose some bass but if I have read the comments on the original Cremonas, they have a slightly ripe bottom end anyway, so you do not need rear-wall reinforcement anyway. I would give that a try.

[Rafale]

Originally Posted by Herb

I've got them and yes they are absolutely everything I've heard - truly great.
I'm trying to experiment with positioning now. they seem to do better in my room with no toe-in. setting them up this way they almost completely disappear leaving a beautiful soundstage in between them. however, I'd like a bit more depth in the soundstage.

any tips on placement?

Herb.... the rake angle has an important effect on the bottom end and the soundstage, play with it ie pull down the rear spikes
Philippe

[metaphacts]

Lots of good set up tid bits but nothing to connect the dots.

1) Connect the speakers to the room in the bass
2) Connect the speakers to each other in the bass

These two steps determine how wide the speakers can (must) be for your chosen seating position.

3) Distance apart and toe in/out
4) Rake (you would have to have an incredibly odd set up for them to rake forward)

If you have Cremonas facing straight ahead, you have a lot of work to do.

One last thing. Close to the wall gives you more mid bass output, not extended bass. Extended bass comes and goes as you move into the room based on speaker pressurization pattern and room geometry inclusive of all large protrusions/rebates.

Bill

[Herb]

Originally Posted by metaphacts

If you have Cremonas facing straight ahead, you have a lot of work to do.

Bill

oh boy. where to start then?
I have them in an 9' equilateral triangle with my sitting position. they are 2' from the front wall and the bass is adequate. I screw the spikes all the way in so the rake is standard. should I toe them in so they cross behind my back?

[metaphacts]

Originally Posted by Herb

oh boy. where to start then?
I have them in an 9' equilateral triangle with my sitting position. they are 2' from the front wall and the bass is adequate. I screw the spikes all the way in so the rake is standard. should I toe them in so they cross behind my back?

Start here: http://audioaficionado.org/general-a...ate-tweak.html

[Herb]

okay. so I found these instructions on adjusting the speakers while playing the ballad of the runaway horse. I can't stand the song, but the set up sounds better now. the speakers are closer to the wall then before but further apart. the toe-in is about an inch. the singer is smack in the middle and a little forward. I would like a deeper sound stage though. what do I change to get that?

[metaphacts]

Originally Posted by Herb

okay. so I found these instructions on adjusting the speakers while playing the ballad of the runaway horse. I can't stand the song, but the set up sounds better now. the speakers are closer to the wall then before but further apart. the toe-in is about an inch. the singer is smack in the middle and a little forward. I would like a deeper sound stage though. what do I change to get that?

Where did you find the instructions?

[Herb]

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