Where do you plug in amps ?

[mintakaX]

Originally Posted by audioguy3107

Most amplifier recommendations from users along with manufacturers are directly into the wall unless you have electrical issues that would be detrimental to performance.

- Buck

I've heard this several times. So do users who spend lots of $$ on power regeneration and conditioning plug their amps into the wall and other equipment into the PC unit ? Or is this still somewhat controversial ?

Is there any possibility that plugging amps into PC or PR units degrades SC ?

[ps7256]

Originally Posted by mintakaX

I've heard this several times. So do users who spend lots of $$ on power regeneration and conditioning plug their amps into the wall and other equipment into the PC unit ? Or is this still somewhat controversial ?



Is there any possibility that plugging amps into PC or PR units degrades SC ?

I have found the P10 to reveal a lower level of noise overall. Before the purchase 4 years ago I borrowed one for 4 Days and did some intensive listening, through that time it ‘seemed’ like there was a decrease in noise that was most noticeable at the end of Tracks that I was familiar with, but not enough to convince me that it was worth it. The turning point was when I unplugged everything and used regular wall outlets, and a basic surge protector. Listened to the tracks again and realized there was a muddiness consistently present. Thought I was imagining it, so replugged into P10, muddiness was gone. At present all sources with the exception of 2 (Limited by Number of outlets on P10) are plugged into P10. The Amps with exception of one are plugged into HC outlets on back of P10.

[ps7256]

Originally Posted by ps7256

I have found the P10 to reveal a lower level of noise overall. Before the purchase 4 years ago I borrowed one for 4 Days and did some intensive listening, through that time it ‘seemed’ like there was a decrease in noise that was most noticeable at the end of Tracks that I was familiar with, but not enough to convince me that it was worth it. The turning point was when I unplugged everything and used regular wall outlets, and a basic surge protector. Listened to the tracks again and realized there was a muddiness consistently present. Thought I was imagining it, so replugged into P10, muddiness was gone. At present all sources with the exception of 2 (Limited by Number of outlets on P10) are plugged into P10. The Amps with exception of one are plugged into HC outlets on back of P10.

Have not noticed any degradation from any components.

[audioguy3107]

Originally Posted by mintakaX

I've heard this several times. So do users who spend lots of $$ on power regeneration and conditioning plug their amps into the wall and other equipment into the PC unit ? Or is this still somewhat controversial ?

Is there any possibility that plugging amps into PC or PR units degrades SC ?

I supposed YMMV, but that's what I've always done, preamplifiers and source components into the conditioner, power amplifiers into the wall.....the thinking is that many conditioners may restrict full power delivery to the amplifier with which they would otherwise benefit.

- Buck

[dixon007]

I found the outstanding P10 produced excellent SQ but with many other components plugged into it, the P10 was limiting the power draw of the MC 1.2K. Directly plugging it into the wall compromised SQ slightly but did not limit volume. Now I use the Shunyata Denali 2000/T— best SQ and no volume limitations.

[Route 66]

I have mine plugged into one of THESE and then into a dedicated 20 amp circuit.

[uglatto]

Originally Posted by Macuser

MC1201's plugged into the wall on opposite 120 volt legs and dedicated circuits. My other less demanding Mac amps are plugged into a high current plug of a Belkin conditioner.

Please forgive my uneducated questions.

If installing dedicated 20A circuits for mono blocks, is it recommended to install them on opposite legs? Does this mean to have the lines come from opposite sides of the panel? I have read that I want to keep the lines, that feed my equipment, on the opposite side of the panel as my refrigerator, and other noisy appliances.

I am asking, because I am having a 200A panel upgrade, as well as three dedicated 20A circuits, installed tomorrow (2 lines will go to the individual outlets of a Hubbell duplex receptacle, and the other is to be shared on a second duplex outlet, for the preamp and sources).

As this stuff is beyond my understanding, I am trying to come up with a simple list of instructions for the electrician, in order to make the install audio friendly, and eliminate any potential noise in the system.

I apologize to the OP, and can start a separate thread, if this is too far off topic.

[Macuser]

If installing dedicated 20A circuits for mono blocks, is it recommended to install them on opposite legs? Does this mean to have the lines come from opposite sides of the panel? I have read that I want to keep the lines, that feed my equipment, on the opposite side of the panel as my refrigerator, and other noisy appliances

I'm not sure if it's right thing to do or not but it's worked out well in my case. My thinking was to even out the load and not to tax one leg of the 240 more than the other. What you have planned sounds like a good idea to me to keep the noisy appliances on their own half of the 240.

[mintakaX]

Originally Posted by uglatto

Please forgive my uneducated questions.

If installing dedicated 20A circuits for mono blocks, is it recommended to install them on opposite legs? Does this mean to have the lines come from opposite sides of the panel? I have read that I want to keep the lines, that feed my equipment, on the opposite side of the panel as my refrigerator, and other noisy appliances.

I am asking, because I am having a 200A panel upgrade, as well as three dedicated 20A circuits, installed tomorrow (2 lines will go to the individual outlets of a Hubbell duplex receptacle, and the other is to be shared on a second duplex outlet, for the preamp and sources).

As this stuff is beyond my understanding, I am trying to come up with a simple list of instructions for the electrician, in order to make the install audio friendly, and eliminate any potential noise in the system.

I apologize to the OP, and can start a separate thread, if this is too far off topic.

No worries my friend ! Good question and will add to the info on this thread.

[Levitator]

Originally Posted by dixon007

I found the outstanding P10 produced excellent SQ but with many other components plugged into it, the P10 was limiting the power draw of the MC 1.2K. Directly plugging it into the wall compromised SQ slightly but did not limit volume. Now I use the Shunyata Denali 2000/T— best SQ and no volume limitations.

I have the MC1.2K’s as well - do you now plug these amps and other components into the Denali?