Turntable/Cartridge ideas for Shindo system

[adhesiv]

Originally Posted by gortnipper

Feel free to ping me re. a Schick if you are interested.

Hey gort, I'm interested but your setup denies PM...have you used the Schick with a 301?

[Shindoug]

Originally Posted by gortnipper

Feel free to ping me re. a Schick if you are interested.

Hey, I am interested in the arm too, I sent you a personal message with some questions.
Thanks
Doug

[two dot]

Originally Posted by Shindoug

Hey, I am interested in the arm too, I sent you a personal message with some questions.
Thanks
Doug

You actually HAVE Lafites???? Let's see them.. how are they??? What did they replace???

[gortnipper]

Originally Posted by adhesiv

Hey gort, I'm interested but your setup denies PM...have you used the Schick with a 301?

Hmm...should work. Try again.

[adhesiv]

ah i just realized PM doesn't work if you're not a subscriber...i sent you a visitor message instead...not sure if that's similar or not...let me know if you still haven't gotten it.

[adhesiv]

Ok well now that's settled (thanks gortnipper) time to find a cartridge...I've done some research and both the Ortofon SPU 90 and Ortofon A90 have my interest. With the A90 I'll also have to buy a headshell (Yamamoto?).

The other option is the much more affordable Denon 103r in soundsmith body or zu103.

If you could pick one which would you go with to pair a 301/Schick combo?

[gortnipper]

The 90th Anniversary always tempted me, but I never did the deal.

My mate had both a SS re-tipped 103r in a Uwe body, and a Zu103. The SS killed the Zu.

IMHO, it depends a lot on what SUT you have or will have. I have really noticed that a lot recently as I have played with Jensen, Cinemag 3440, 1131 Blue, EAR MC4 and Shindo's inbuilt.

But, out of what you list I would pop for the SPU 90!

[Whart]

Question for you Shindo guys: some of the preamps already include step-ups for MC coil, but you are opting to go with a stand alone phono stage- I assume the built-in transformers are already optimized for an Ortofon cartridge? And that going stand alone is simply because you can improve on what is built in?
(and that purchasing preamp with built in phono is partly to build in steps and defray expense? otherwise, why not linestage sans phono and standalone phono?)
Not really up on Shindo equipment details, though I plan to take a listen, if I can to the full on system.
Best,
Bill Hart

[fjn04]

Whart-That's a question most certainly best asked to Matt, but I will take a stab. The Shindo preamps all come with a built in phono stage, except for the Aurieges, which you can order WITH a phono stage. You are correct in stating the built in SUT(in the MC input) is optimized for low impedance cartridges such as an SPU. For some reason, 2 ohm impedance sticks in my mind...! Please don't take my word for sure on that. Then, if you use different higher impedance cartridges, it would be a better to use a stand alone SUT. A common example would be the EMT cartridges, for which I use either an A23Hi-Impedance (Denon) SUT or a Choir Hashimoto on it's Hi-Impedance setting.
A23 also makes the T1 Homage, and the newer T2 Homage. The former for lower Impedance such as SPU's, the latter for Hi such as EMT. I hope this basic info helps. I couldn't offer any more, but I am sure Matt or your local dealer could. Hell of a nice system BTW!
Countingbackward- I see where you're coming from, that's where my head is right now. I was just checking out the Ligno 301 setup on Matt's site. Out of my $$ range, but looks awesome. I would love to have that floating on my Lignolab BENCH. Shindoug-I have tried a Silvercore, I think it was a model above the 1-10 unit you are referring to. It sounded very good, and would be well worth checking out.

[restock]

Originally Posted by Whart

otherwise, why not linestage sans phono and standalone phono?)

Simple - standalone tube MC phono stages would also be MM stage + step-up. Unless the step up happens to be optimal for your cartridge, you would need external step-ups even in case of a standalone phono. So the option you mention is really: Linestage + phono stage + step up.

Including the MM tube phono stage in the line stage in one package is much cleaner. You then optimize the part that needs optimization for the cart you use.