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[turntable]

Originally Posted by markc2

so that very demure but significant twac3 in your tag line, is that what I think it is????

if so, I've only read one or two reviews, and was curious as to what you might think of it..? besides the fact that you bought one....

Mark

Hi Mark - It is an excellent table and frankly should be an end game for all but the most obsessive audiophile. It is not dark sounding per say, but rather very neutral and controlled in what it does and really lets the arm/cartridge combo com out.
That said, it is certainly not the hyper detail freak like some of its competition, so longer term it is easier to listen to.

having the ability to have two or even 3/4 arms is a godsend IMO and with that you can have great fun in optimising two slightly different musical presentations for your listening preferences and pleasure.

I used to have a VPI HRX which was nice but had the tendancy to be a little too lively in the upper frequencies and always a little on the edge of your seat in comparison to the the Raven. I don't miss it.

hope that helps

[PHC1]

Originally Posted by turntable

Well Serge, I think you know i will totally agree you choice on this one. Make sure you get a 2nd armboard so you can buy a Ortofon tonearm or similar with detachable headshell.
This way you can maintain your reference on the Phantom and play around and have fun with the other arm.

cheers

I'll get another armboard for it for sure down the road. So, have you thought about upgrading to the Raven Black Knight ? That table should be something else!

[turntable]

Originally Posted by PHC1

I'll get another armboard for it for sure down the road. So, have you thought about upgrading to the Raven Black Knight ? That table should be something else!

Black Knight - Not a F$%@en chance. very stupid money IMO for probably little more than a slightly different presentation.

The black Knight is very similar to the legendary Micro Seiki RX-5000 which can be bought for less than 8k used. A audiobuddy of mine just bought one from HK actual unit below - he has a raven two with Phantom II arm.



More happier to keep the raven AC-3 and play around with vintage tables like my Exclusive P10, which for the price is sensational. same for other vintage tables like Garrard, Lenco, Micro Seiki, technics etc

[markc2]

Originally Posted by turntable

Black Knight - Not a F$%@en chance. very stupid money IMO for probably little more than a slightly different presentation.

The black Knight is very similar to the legendary Micro Seiki RX-5000 which can be bought for less than 8k used. A audiobuddy of mine just bought one from HK actual unit below - he has a raven two with Phantom II arm.



More happier to keep the raven AC-3 and play around with vintage tables like my Exclusive P10, which for the price is sensational. same for other vintage tables like Garrard, Lenco, Micro Seiki, technics etc

Read about the Micro Seiki but never heard The Nakamichi TX-1000 is an other of the exotic japanese tables


It's amazing how many different ways people try to find to get what's on those grooves.

Mark

[PHC1]

Originally Posted by turntable

Black Knight - Not a F$%@en chance. very stupid money IMO for probably little more than a slightly different presentation.

The black Knight is very similar to the legendary Micro Seiki RX-5000 which can be bought for less than 8k used. A audiobuddy of mine just bought one from HK actual unit below - he has a raven two with Phantom II arm.



More happier to keep the raven AC-3 and play around with vintage tables like my Exclusive P10, which for the price is sensational. same for other vintage tables like Garrard, Lenco, Micro Seiki, technics etc

I don't know much about that Micro Seiki. Why do you think there is so much similarity between the two? Has your friend auditioned the BK as well? If it is similar to BK than it is a hell of a bargain and you save yourself $32k

[turntable]

Originally Posted by PHC1

I don't know much about that Micro Seiki. Why do you think there is so much similarity between the two? Has your friend auditioned the BK as well? If it is similar to BK than it is a hell of a bargain and you save yourself $32k

More the concept Serge. Kudos to Thomas for using the MS as inspiration. the massive copper platter, on top of heavy unsuspended platter with over spec motor drive. MS's are very populat in Germany

The main difference between the two is you can buy a BN, the MS'a are very hard to come by and of course no company support.

Nah, unfortunately no one here downunder has heard the BN

BTW, If you are going to Jeff @ Highwater - give us a report on what you heard between the RAVEN AC-3 & BN.

[PHC1]

Originally Posted by turntable

More the concept Serge. Kudos to Thomas for using the MS as inspiration. the massive copper platter, on top of heavy unsuspended platter with over spec motor drive. MS's are very populat in Germany

The main difference between the two is you can buy a BN, the MS'a are very hard to come by and of course no company support.

Nah, unfortunately no one here downunder has heard the BN

BTW, If you are going to Jeff @ Highwater - give us a report on what you heard between the RAVEN AC-3 & BN.

Well, I know Jeff has a BN. If I can get out that way sometime in the near future, I'll share my findings. Jeff is a straight shooter though, he thinks the Raven 1 is a hell of a bargain with the other tables offering a bit more here and there. I would hope the BN would offer a hell of a lot more for its $40k price tag.