Wilson and Stillpoints

[TLi]

Originally Posted by chessman

Use the Ultra 5s under the speakers. Get the adapter studs to replace the factory studs. Screw the Ultra 5s onto the adapter studs leaving a small gap between the base of the speaker and the Ultra 5. The Ultra 5s will be bevel down. You need a helper to rock the speaker to one side to remove the spike, adapter and original stud. Recommended sequence is "float" speakers first, then power supply/distributor, then amp, then sources. No idea on the Nordost Sort Fut, but if you compare them to Stillpoints, we need a complete report.

You are right, the effect of isolation is most profound in speakers. The power supply is more important than the other components. I put Nordost sort kone under the power supply of my preamp, the effect is better than putting them under the main unit.

I shall do more testing and share some experience here.

[lloydelee21]

Agree with you, Chessman and TLi, on your observations. Each of my components (including speakers and sub) are in 'isolation sandwiches' with a combination of HRS, Stillpoints, Auralex underneath and HRS, Artesania, Stillpoints and upwards of 154lbs of solid brass weight for mass damping on top. Look forward to reading more...

[John49]

Originally Posted by tima

... Now if we could get the Big Turtle that carries the world on a set of Stillpoints ...

I will sue your ass off!



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[allvinyl]

Originally Posted by TLi

You are right, the effect of isolation is most profound in speakers. The power supply is more important than the other components. I put Nordost sort kone under the power supply of my preamp, the effect is better than putting them under the main unit.

I shall do more testing and share some experience here.

Yes, our established hierarchy through experience is to first isolate speakers as this does yield the best ROI and performance. Next, power related components. These components tend to generate more vibration due to transformers and other internal components. I am not surprised you realized better performance isolating the preamp power supply than the main preamp unit.

I can't stress enough experimenting with our products to find those locations that provide best performance.

John

[Masterlu]

Originally Posted by allvinyl

Yes, our established hierarchy through experience is to first isolate speakers as this does yield the best ROI and performance. Next, power related components. These components tend to generate more vibration due to transformers and other internal components. I am not surprised you realized better performance isolating the preamp power supply than the main preamp unit.

I can't stress enough experimenting with our products to find those locations that provide best performance.

John

John... I really love your products, as I'm sure you have noted by all my orders to incorporate them in all of my demo systems.

[wpascoe]

Originally Posted by allvinyl

Yes, our established hierarchy through experience is to first isolate speakers as this does yield the best ROI and performance. Next, power related components. These components tend to generate more vibration due to transformers and other internal components. I am not surprised you realized better performance isolating the preamp power supply than the main preamp unit. I can't stress enough experimenting with our products to find those locations that provide best performance. John

Which would be the best Stillpoints to use underneath a Triton/Typhon combo?

[lloydelee21]

Originally Posted by wpascoe

Which would be the best Stillpoints to use underneath a Triton/Typhon combo?

FWIW, I compared the Ultra 5s and the other Stillpoints devices under my power components (amp, 2 PSUs and Power Conditioner). I ended up going with all Ultra 5s...4 under each, along with HRS Nimbus/Couplers on top of the Ultra 5 (and THEN the component on top).

[wpascoe]

Originally Posted by lloydelee21

FWIW, I compared the Ultra 5s and the other Stillpoints devices under my power components (amp, 2 PSUs and Power Conditioner). I ended up going with all Ultra 5s...4 under each, along with HRS Nimbus/Couplers on top of the Ultra 5 (and THEN the component on top).

Thanks, that's helpful.

Gulp.

[lloydelee21]

Originally Posted by wpascoe

Thanks, that's helpful.

Gulp.

[tima]

Originally Posted by wpascoe

Which would be the best Stillpoints to use underneath a Triton/Typhon combo?

The Stillpoints proviso about component weight kinda rules out using the UltraMini under the combined stack (~ 80lbs.) As noted upthread I'm using four UltraSS under the Hydra stack and UltraMinis under dedicated Typhons. While I have not tried Ultra5s under any of these, I speculate those would be overkill - but hey, trust your ears. If you don't stack the Triton and Typhon, then UltraMinis under each should do the trick.

Imo, using Stillpoints under power conditioners receives a priority (after speakers), because, as allvinyl (John) mentions: "These components tend to generate more vibration due to transformers and other internal components." That's a similar rational for locating Stillpoints under transformers and power supplies in active components such as amps.

The Shunyata Triton and Typhon are passive devices, containing neither transformers that can induce vibration nor capacitors that are adversely impacted. This is not to say these components are unaffected by internally-generated or air-born vibration and do not benefit from isolation, but imo they are not as directly impacted as powered conditioners. My limited understanding says the NICs in both the T & T release energy as heat and I speculate that vibration of their ferromagnetic material could possibly result in friction that mitigates that function to a degree and thus isolation devices could help the NICs be more efficient. Reduced vibration between cord connectors and input sockets is another positive. Be that as it may, my sense finds positive contribution from using the Stillpoints under the Shunyata devices.

I believe Shunyata's general recommendation for mounting the Hydras is to use a 'hard' device rather than something pliable or squishy (eg. sorbothane pucks), and they do sell threaded metal feet to replace the soft bumper feet. I also received their suggestion to try the Stillpoints for further improvement.


UltraMinis under Typhon