Magico Q7 Mk II: First Listen

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[Steady339]

I think I know where WillydeWoofer is coming from when he says musicians have a more "developed ear" for music than most people. I feel he has a valid point here. For example, a classical musician develops an ingrained knowlege of the correct timbre of orchestral instruments through the many long hours of orchestra rehearsals and performances. I have heard it said that many audiophiles have never even attended an orchestral performance in a good hall.

Roger

[PeterA]

Originally Posted by Steady339

I think I know where WillydeWoofer is coming from when he says musicians have a more "developed ear" for music than most people. I feel he has a valid point here. For example, a classical musician develops an ingrained knowlege of the correct timbre of orchestral instruments through the many long hours of orchestra rehearsals and performances. I have heard it said that many audiophiles have never even attended an orchestral performance in a good hall.

Roger

I just attended my last Boston Symphony Orchestra performance of the season last Friday. On Saturday I listened extensively to my friend's Magico M Project speakers. His system, anchored by the M Pros and Pass amplifiers came closer to the sound of the live orchestral music that I heard the day before than any other system I have ever heard.

These new Magico Q7 II speakers have the same midrange and tweeter as the M Project speakers, so I imagine they must sound fantastic and realistic if set up properly in a good room with great components.

[PLK]

Originally Posted by PeterA

I just attended my last Boston Symphony Orchestra performance of the season last Friday. On Saturday I listened extensively to my friend's Magico M Project speakers. His system, anchored by the M Pros and Pass amplifiers came closer to the sound of the live orchestral music that I heard the day before than any other system I have ever heard.

These new Magico Q7 II speakers have the same midrange and tweeter as the M Project speakers, so I imagine they must sound fantastic and realistic if set up properly in a good room with great components.

Doesn't your friend with the Magico M Project speakers wear a hearing aid and suffer from tinnitus?

[tompj]

In my view it's like this:

We all would like to hear our music as lifelike as possible. (Maybe there are exeptions to that rule, but anyway..). A lifelike experience is a good thing to strive for, but today it is also not obtainable. Every audio component is a set of compromises on a set of attributes that have an effect on eachother. Solid state versus tubes is a good example. Where one shines, the other stuggles (I know I exaggerate, but for the sake of argument..). It's a matter of personal preference where you personally want to compromise the most or least.

When you spend more money, compromising should be less extreme. Attributes on average should be better. But still, compromises are there and the attributes one values most or more are personal.

Recommending audio components is fine, but I feel one should always remember that it's a personal preference of a set of compromises one is recommending. There is no 'one truth'.

To make things worse: because we listen to recorded music, we can never really determine what the live venture sounded like. It is never wholy an objective measure.
And then still: our audio components interact together, so what comes out is also a function of the combination of all attributes of the whole chain.
And then still: we all have different acoustical circumstances to deal with, that might make an audio component work very differently.

So when people pretend there is one truth, or recommend a few brands just like that, I feel, putting it bluntly, they don't have a clue what they are talking about.

[cmarin]

Originally Posted by tompj

In my view it's like this: We all would like to hear our music as lifelike as possible. (Maybe there are exeptions to that rule, but anyway..). A lifelike experience is a good thing to strive for, but today it is also not obtainable. Every audio component is a set of compromises on a set of attributes that have an effect on eachother. Solid state versus tubes is a good example. Where one shines, the other stuggles (I know I exaggerate, but for the sake of argument..). It's a matter of personal preference where you personally want to compromise the most or least. When you spend more money, compromising should be less extreme. Attributes on average should be better. But still, compromises are there and the attributes one values most or more are personal. Recommending audio components is fine, but I feel one should always remember that it's a personal preference of a set of compromises one is recommending. There is no 'one truth'. To make things worse: because we listen to recorded music, we can never really determine what the live venture sounded like. It is never wholy an objective measure. And then still: our audio components interact together, so what comes out is also a function of the combination of all attributes of the whole chain. And then still: we all have different acoustical circumstances to deal with, that might make an audio component work very differently. So when people pretend there is one truth, or recommend a few brands just like that, I feel, putting it bluntly, they don't have a clue what they are talking about.

+1
Succinctly put: YMMV

[WillydeWoofer]

It is very difficult to know if a set is sounding natural. And.....we were not in the studio.
But I'm used to listen to the timbre of instruments and I think I can remember them.
Further it is impossible to listen to speakers. One always listens to a complete set up in a certain acoustic envirement.
When an instrument is playing a tone, you always hear more than that one tone. There are several harmonics (higher tones) that can be heard. It is possible to make a grafic from that upper tones, what is cold the formant. That's the timbre of an instrument.
Again it is very difficult to give an opinion about a set up. Even two the same instruments can sound a little bit different. Every musician has his own sound because of his physic.
However after having heard several different recordings it is possible to conclude that f.i. system A souinds closer to a live performance than system B. Off course there are also not-musicians who are born with a good pair of airs. They can also developpe there ability to decide what sounds better.
For me counts no personal taste but the ability to .........

[Venere]

Damn, the suspense is killing me. The ability to...to what?

[imprezap2]

finally somebody explains, I never knew that an instrument was more then one tone, my god what a ........

[Steady339]

Originally Posted by PeterA

I just attended my last Boston Symphony Orchestra performance of the season last Friday. On Saturday I listened extensively to my friend's Magico M Project speakers. His system, anchored by the M Pros and Pass amplifiers came closer to the sound of the live orchestral music that I heard the day before than any other system I have ever heard.

These new Magico Q7 II speakers have the same midrange and tweeter as the M Project speakers, so I imagine they must sound fantastic and realistic if set up properly in a good room with great components.

I applaud Magico's efforts to keep improving their products, as shown in the Project M and Q7 Mk II, and advancing the state-of-the-art in speaker technology. Their research and development is bound to foster improvements in speakers throughout the industry.