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Old 08-09-2020, 06:48 AM
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Default McIntosh CD Players & Transports...worth it?

Would like to hear opinions on Mc players and transports. Cut through the b.s., are these simply “rebadged” players from another manufacturer (like Marantz) with some Mc lipstick? Or are these ground-up designs? Has anyone ever really did a deep dive into this?

“Mc aesthetics” aside, would your money go further buying a player from Esoteric, Bryston or even Simaudio?
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Old 08-09-2020, 08:26 AM
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I own a McIntosh MCD 1100. It looks fantastic and sounds good. It is not re-badged, all the pcb’s inside are McIntosh. The MVP 891 video player has all McIntosh pcbs in it as well. Not sure about the latest MVP 901.

Depreciation is killer on these players, the video ones are the worst. It is probably the same for the other brands you mentioned, not sure.

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Old 08-09-2020, 08:49 AM
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I picked up a MCD500 on here years ago, it is an excellent CDP and not a re-badge. As I look to downsize the digital side of my system, I'm not sure I'd do it again, but it looks great, sounds excellent (even using the built-in DAC) and has top notch build quality. I have heard some Simaudio CDPs and really enjoyed them, if you plan on using an outboard DAC I'm not sure you'd hear a huge amount of difference, if any. The older I get, the cheaper I get so I'd keep my eyes peeled on the market here.
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Old 08-09-2020, 10:28 AM
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I have an MVP-881 and think it's terrific. I use it in a two-channel system where video is virtually an afterthought, so I'm not sure how it compares with the competition if you're interested in surround sound and the latest in video quality. But it's my main spinner and it sounds excellent even through the built-in DAC.
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I have the MCT450 and its been rock solid. The main thing I like about it is being able to play SACDs with the MCT cable even though its only a transport. Additionally, the Shunyata Venom V14 Digital PC, elevating it on Stillpoints ultra minis and placing HRS damping plates on top take it to another level.
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Old 08-09-2020, 01:47 PM
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I have a MCD 500 and MCT 450. Both outstanding spinners. Rock solid build and and they look and sound great!
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Old 08-09-2020, 02:36 PM
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The MCD 7000 was the first CD player I heard that had a natural open sound. It had one D/A converter that was used for both channels. It sounded so much better that any other CD player of its vintage, I still remember it well. I bought one.

When I met Gordon Gow, I asked him about it. His response was, "It saved our company". In those days Mac was struggling.

Mac has a proven track record in digital. They also have a proven track record with loudspeakers. They have been manufacturing both digital and speakers for a long long time. I agree that the MVP881 is a fine player. I never plan on selling mine.

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Old 08-09-2020, 02:57 PM
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I have been using a MCD 205 for about 15 years. I am the second owner, the original had it for about 6 months. It has been flawless; the 5 CD changer works fine. I do use the Bryston DAC now as it is slightly better than the one built into the mc.
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Old 08-09-2020, 05:04 PM
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If you're after bang for buck, I would recommend a Naim Uniti Core. Rip the CDs to its hard drive. I'm pretty sure you'll get better sound, and I'm certain playback will be easier
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Does the Uniti play SACD’s?
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Nottingham Dais with Wave Mechanic
Sumiko Palo Santos Presentation

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MX 151, OppO BDP-95, JVC RS-500 DILA projector, 106" diagonal Stewart Luxus Screenwall Deluxe with Studiotek 130 G3 material.

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