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Old 09-06-2017, 09:45 PM
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I do not know how good are those 300B tubes but 2500 dollars for a pair just makes no sense.
A pair of Gold Lion reissue 300 B tubes sound fabulous and cost around 350 dollars.

On a side note, the best 300B amps I ever heard are monoblocks with Lundhal
transformers, made by a french engineer in Rennes. The guy makes all kind of tube amps just for passion ans sells them for the price of their parts. I paid my monoblocks 1400 euros and I changed the Shuguang tubes for Gold Lion ones. Double the price for the maker to earn some money and you are at 2800 euros. Double the price for the importer and retailer and you get at 5600 euros + taxes.
An amp sold for 5600 euros in a hifi shop and often much more has 1400 euros of pieces inside.
How much do you think this Luxman amp cost to produce ?
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That Luxman amp is GORGEOUS!
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I do not know how good are those 300B tubes but 2500 dollars for a pair just makes no sense.
A pair of Gold Lion reissue 300 B tubes sound fabulous and cost around 350 dollars.

On a side note, the best 300B amps I ever heard are monoblocks with Lundhal
transformers, made by a french engineer in Rennes. The guy makes all kind of tube amps just for passion ans sells them for the price of their parts. I paid my monoblocks 1400 euros and I changed the Shuguang tubes for Gold Lion ones. Double the price for the maker to earn some money and you are at 2800 euros. Double the price for the importer and retailer and you get at 5600 euros + taxes.
An amp sold for 5600 euros in a hifi shop and often much more has 1400 euros of pieces inside.
How much do you think this Luxman amp cost to produce ?
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Good point, and no doubt there's a hefty mark up, but the Luxman looks pretty serious under the hood:

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I do not know how good are those 300B tubes but 2500 dollars for a pair just makes no sense.
A pair of Gold Lion reissue 300 B tubes sound fabulous and cost around 350 dollars.

On a side note, the best 300B amps I ever heard are monoblocks with Lundhal
transformers, made by a french engineer in Rennes. The guy makes all kind of tube amps just for passion ans sells them for the price of their parts. I paid my monoblocks 1400 euros and I changed the Shuguang tubes for Gold Lion ones. Double the price for the maker to earn some money and you are at 2800 euros. Double the price for the importer and retailer and you get at 5600 euros + taxes.
An amp sold for 5600 euros in a hifi shop and often much more has 1400 euros of pieces inside.
How much do you think this Luxman amp cost to produce ?
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Apparently, these tubes are supposed to last a very long time (so I am told).

I can also get a box of NOS Western Electric tubes for $900.
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While this thread is in the Japanese Exotica forum, am wondering if the MQ-300 is made in China (one of the China's), as Luxman is owned by IAG, which is a couple of Chinese (Taiwanese) brothers with very deep pockets. IAG also owns Wharfedale, Quad Electroacoustics, Mission, Tag McLaren, Audiolab and Castle Acoustics and has moved most of the production of same from the UK to China, so it would be no surprise if Luxman followed suit. My NQ-10 Luxman stated "Made in China" on the box, but nowhere on the amp did it state where it was made. Most electronics made in Japan still states so.
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Says Made in Japan



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My recollection is that Luxman moved some production to China a few years ago, but had some problems and moved it back to Japan when they refocused on the high-end market. My SQ-N100, for what it's worth, says made in Japan.
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Correct. What little was made in China has been moved back to Japan. None of their high end gear was ever made in China.
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I do not know how good are those 300B tubes but 2500 dollars for a pair just makes no sense.
A pair of Gold Lion reissue 300 B tubes sound fabulous and cost around 350 dollars.
The AA Market Place tube dealer offers Gold Lion Platinum matched pair for $250; EH 300B for a bit less at $195.00 pr.

Just sayin'

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I do not know how good are those 300B tubes but 2500 dollars for a pair just makes no sense.
A pair of Gold Lion reissue 300 B tubes sound fabulous and cost around 350 dollars.

On a side note, the best 300B amps I ever heard are monoblocks with Lundhal
transformers, made by a french engineer in Rennes. The guy makes all kind of tube amps just for passion ans sells them for the price of their parts. I paid my monoblocks 1400 euros and I changed the Shuguang tubes for Gold Lion ones. Double the price for the maker to earn some money and you are at 2800 euros. Double the price for the importer and retailer and you get at 5600 euros + taxes.
An amp sold for 5600 euros in a hifi shop and often much more has 1400 euros of pieces inside.
How much do you think this Luxman amp cost to produce ?
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Jerome,

I hear you. $2,500 for a pair of tubes seems outrageous but perhaps these Takaksuki tubes are one on the contributing factors to the magical sound of this amp. Most people who swear by this tube and the original Western Electric claim they are getting 10,000 plus hours of use out of them. I guess if you break it down that way, it's "tolerable".

I hope that more people on AA get a chance to hear this amp.
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