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Dedicated Circuit, Circuits?
I’m going to install a dedicated 20 amp circuit for my MC 2301 amps tomorrow, question is do I need one for each amp or just one?
Any other tips would be appreciated Thanks in advance R |
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Not really needed for tube amps since they don't draw nearly as much current. If your MC2301s draw 3 amps each, I'd be surprised. Tube amps are voltage sources not current. Having dedicated circuits can be somewhat beneficial for unpolluted power but even that is debatable. Since you are going to do it anyways, might as well run 2 separate lines in case you get into monster SS amps later.
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The extra cost and work is minimal so I would suggest Yes.
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While the electrician is there, I'd suggest 2 lines -- giving you 4 outlets total for future use (maybe).
Make sure they are on same phase -- i.e., breaker 30 and 34 or 29 and 33 and no shared grounds/neutrals. You can always upgrade the outlets to a PS Audio or something similar later. Best Sir, Bob
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Thanks Bob, did you notice any improvement when you had your 2301s?
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I didn't notice it until the MC2301's were gone and I was prepping for a 2d line -- 4 outlets total (to handle everything -- Dan D'Agostino amps/pre and sources). Luckily I noticed it and had my competent, recommended word-of-mouth type licensed electrician fix the error(s). He is awesome and has done other work in the house for me years past. Like a plumber, a electrician is rarely used, but nice to have a good one to rely on. My audio power feeds are now within code and proper. So, I'll defer any benefit to someone else - but it's the way to go & a very smart move. Best Richard & you shouldn't have any issues with a proficient, credentialed electrician. Bob
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When I was in my early 20s I served a apprenticeship with the IBEW in Milwaukee and became a journeyman Electrician. Mostly as a industrial Electrician, motor controls etc. But I have also wired skyscrapers and office buildings, and even a few homes. When I moved to Dallas in 1984 I switched professions. So it’s been a while, but the electrician is me. |
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You never forget... I still do all my own work. Go for it, Richard!
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I Pulled 2, 20 amp dedicated circuits, and made a provision for a third ( 12/2, wire is in the attic above the source electronics but not pulled thru the wall yet.)
The 2 that are finished are now being used as follows. the 2301's are now connected to 1 and the 2 REL g-2's are connected to the other. I did not complete the third for two reasons. first I will have to remove everything from the SRA rack and move rack, this was more work than I planned for. Second the 15 amp circuit that is in the room only services that room, only three things are attached. The P10 which then all front end electronics are attached to , Klaudio's KD-CLN-LP200, which I only use when audio gear is off. and the light which I usually have off when listening. The blue light from the meters light the room enough for me. So far with only about 20 minuets of listening I can notice a improvement in a blacker background. Now I'm considering looking at the Nordost power cords and power products for the 2301's. and some upgraded Neutrik Speakon cables for the REL G-2's Does it make sense to upgrade the power cords on the G-2s ? Thanks in advance R |
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