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Old 04-28-2016, 09:54 AM
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I too get the upgrade bug now and then. Mostly now. Would you say the upgrade to the 500s was a significant upgrade over the 7Ts with subs?
Significant? I don't want to exaggerate the differences, but this is what I hear:
more natural, in comparison the Aerial 7Ts are slightly forward
there is more air and better defined bass notes
the highs/mids are so naturally integrated it's simply outstanding
I called my friend/dealer yesterday and just said "THANKS", he has been telling me to get the PL500s for over a month and I kept saying "NO"
My wife said they are better, but my 11 year old said "WOW", I love them!
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Old 04-28-2016, 03:28 PM
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Significant? I don't want to exaggerate the differences, but this is what I hear: more natural, in comparison the Aerial 7Ts are slightly forward there is more air and better defined bass notes the highs/mids are so naturally integrated it's simply outstanding I called my friend/dealer yesterday and just said "THANKS", he has been telling me to get the PL500s for over a month and I kept saying "NO" My wife said they are better, but my 11 year old said "WOW", I love them!
Thank you for your input. I believe our rooms are similar so I would hear what you're hearing. On second thought. I shouldn't have asked as I'm even more interested! Are you using your subs with the Monitors? Thanks again for now making rethink my decision about upgrading. Seriously. Input very appreciated.
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Old 04-28-2016, 05:06 PM
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Thank you for your input. I believe our rooms are similar so I would hear what you're hearing. On second thought. I shouldn't have asked as I'm even more interested! Are you using your subs with the Monitors? Thanks again for now making rethink my decision about upgrading. Seriously. Input very appreciated.
I sold my subs to help purchase the PL500s. I listen to 95% contemporary Jazz(Boney James, David Sanborn, Jesse J, Paul Brown, Dave Koz). My room was too big for the Aerial 7Ts and subs did a nice job of filling in the lows and providing more dynamics. In a smaller room, I'm confident I would have kept the 7Ts(they are very good). The PL500s are full range, with great bass and dynamics. The soundstage is big, but instruments and voices are properly sized. In my room and to my ears the PL500 don't need subs. Again, no "absolutes" with audio, but after owning many, many speakers the PL500s is where I end my journey.
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I sold my subs to help purchase the PL500s. I listen to 95% contemporary Jazz(Boney James, David Sanborn, Jesse J, Paul Brown, Dave Koz). My room was too big for the Aerial 7Ts and subs did a nice job of filling in the lows and providing more dynamics. In a smaller room, I'm confident I would have kept the 7Ts(they are very good). The PL500s are full range, with great bass and dynamics. The soundstage is big, but instruments and voices are properly sized. In my room and to my ears the PL500 don't need subs. Again, no "absolutes" with audio, but after owning many, many speakers the PL500s is where I end my journey.
Thanks again for the info. My dedicated room is 33 feet wide by 19 feet deep. Is your room approx side so no need for subs?
I've been very happy with the 7Ts but dislike that I needed 2 E110s to completely fill sound out. 7s as you know roll off around 30hz. So I've been high and low passing at 42hz for more dynamics and lower bass fill in. Sounds like the 500s would be the ticket though Mike Kelly has told me his 12Ts will be his best speaker ever. What to do?What to do?????
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Old 04-28-2016, 08:47 PM
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Thanks again for the info. My dedicated room is 33 feet wide by 19 feet deep. Is your room approx side so no need for subs?
I've been very happy with the 7Ts but dislike that I needed 2 E110s to completely fill sound out. 7s as you know roll off around 30hz. So I've been high and low passing at 42hz for more dynamics and lower bass fill in. Sounds like the 500s would be the ticket though Mike Kelly has told me his 12Ts will be his best speaker ever. What to do?What to do?????
Funny you say, "dislike that I needed 2 E110s to completely fill sound out." I recognize how subs add to the music, but I just don't like having subs.

I've talked to Michael Kelly several times about the 12Ts. I really loved my 7Ts and had every intention to purchase the 12Ts. In addition, I've talked to a dealer in Dallas, TX about the 12Ts. The time-frame kept changing and I decided to pursue other speakers. Several weeks ago I was in Dallas and called the Aerial dealer. My wife and I wanted to listen to different speakers. The dealer was weird and recommended that I didn't come to his store and instead just wait for the 12Ts. That was it for me! I decided not to deal with that dealer and to consider other speakers. There are many great speakers out there and you may prefer the sound of the 12Ts. I'm so happy with my decision, with the realization that there will always be better/ different speakers that others prefer. I don't have the finances to continually chase the next new and/or best thing.

If you're ever in San Antonio, TX you're more than welcome to come listen.
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Old 04-29-2016, 01:58 AM
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Funny you say, "dislike that I needed 2 E110s to completely fill sound out." I recognize how subs add to the music, but I just don't like having subs. I've talked to Michael Kelly several times about the 12Ts. I really loved my 7Ts and had every intention to purchase the 12Ts. In addition, I've talked to a dealer in Dallas, TX about the 12Ts. The time-frame kept changing and I decided to pursue other speakers. Several weeks ago I was in Dallas and called the Aerial dealer. My wife and I wanted to listen to different speakers. The dealer was weird and recommended that I didn't come to his store and instead just wait for the 12Ts. That was it for me! I decided not to deal with that dealer and to consider other speakers. There are many great speakers out there and you may prefer the sound of the 12Ts. I'm so happy with my decision, with the realization that there will always be better/ different speakers that others prefer. I don't have the finances to continually chase the next new and/or best thing. If you're ever in San Antonio, TX you're more than welcome to come listen.
I'd like to thank you for your concise,accurate response. Being a CEDIA installer has allowed me to listen to a myriad of different speakers and equipment. Being that I have the luxury of getting most equipment at a significant discount from manufacturers has at times influenced my decisions. I must say I'd never considered Monitor as everything I'd previously had that they made was forward and I'm more of a purist. Aerial was the first speaker that met most of my needs. As I also don't have an inexhaustible supply of money I too am looking for my final speaker in no need of subs. I believe you found them for me. Thank you again for all your input. Since I call Lackland home at times I may take you upon your offer. We both have put subs with our Aerials and I believe have similar rooms. Since the 500s are your final speakers. They maybe mine as well.
Good listening and I'm very appreciative!
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Old 04-29-2016, 09:01 AM
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I didn't consider Monitor Audio either, because the couple of times I've heard them they were forward sounding. Someone I really trust heard them and said the PL500s were on another level. I've owned several Wilson Audio speakers(Sophia 2, 3s, and Sashas). I've owned them because I just wanted to say, "I owned Wilson Audio." Now, I want to own what I think sounds good, regardless of what anyone else thinks. I understand the Wilson appeal, but I honestly feel they are a bad value...just my opinion, based on my experience. The PL500s are very smooth in my system: Jeff Rowland 625 S2 amp, JR Corus preamp, JR Aeris DAC, Bryston BDP2, WireWorld Platinum Power Cables and Inter-connect cables. WireWorld Silver speaker cables and the Torus RM15. My room is treated with GIK Acoustic.
I retired from the Air Force 5 years ago. My last base was Randolph AFB.
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Old 04-29-2016, 02:20 PM
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I didn't consider Monitor Audio either, because the couple of times I've heard them they were forward sounding. Someone I really trust heard them and said the PL500s were on another level. I've owned several Wilson Audio speakers(Sophia 2, 3s, and Sashas). I've owned them because I just wanted to say, "I owned Wilson Audio." Now, I want to own what I think sounds good, regardless of what anyone else thinks. I understand the Wilson appeal, but I honestly feel they are a bad value...just my opinion, based on my experience. The PL500s are very smooth in my system: Jeff Rowland 625 S2 amp, JR Corus preamp, JR Aeris DAC, Bryston BDP2, WireWorld Platinum Power Cables and Inter-connect cables. WireWorld Silver speaker cables and the Torus RM15. My room is treated with GIK Acoustic. I retired from the Air Force 5 years ago. My last base was Randolph AFB.
You've got me intrigued and I'm going to try and hear them. It's nice to know that us Air Force vets have good ears. Again. Information much appreciated.
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Old 05-04-2016, 09:03 PM
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I was reading an old post on another forum and found a great description of the Monitor Audio PL500s...detailed sound that has a 3 dimensional soundstage with great imaging and lots of depth(when recording allows), dynamic range and the ability to convey a sense of weight and power in the bass.
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What is the best product to use for cleaning my PL500? I need a wood and leather cleaner.
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