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I used Barry Ober's method. He wrote a white paper and shared it for free on his website. He also does house calls...
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If you are one cycle behind at e.g. 80 hz then you are not time correct or even phase correct at any frequency other than the crossover frequency. My understanding is that the magic comes from being time correct. I'd like to know how people with 2 channel systems are accomplishing this. If you sit 15' from your speakers you could just move sub closer, but this is not possible for many (most) of us. |
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Here's how to truly time align for a 2 channel system
https://www.trinnov.com/products/hi-...st/?lang=en_us |
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The most optimal solution is to get 4 subs, one in each corner of the room. Even if you get slightly smaller and less expensive subs, you get far better room balance with it!
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The most optimal solution in my opinion is to get full range speakers and ditch the subs. Where possible, ymmv, etc.
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Ah... Op does say that he will use for movies. That makes sense
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I had a plan to hook up my 2 Velodyne DD10 to my Amati Futura to get more timbre in the lowest bass. But that was before I got my Gryphon amp... My "test" CD in this case is Boz Scaggs - Dig. The last song "Thanks to you" has some very low bass notes. And if you can get parts of you body to vibrate - without the whole room exaggerating the sound - then you can check that box. IMO. Last edited by bigblue; 08-23-2017 at 02:38 AM. |
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It really depends on the room dimensions and listening spot. Careful placement of subs to attenuate peaks and smooth out valleys is the best way to go which is rarely the corners. Measuring and ultimately listening.
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With Patience, Integrating Subs is Worth the Time & Trouble
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This last time, integrating a pair of F113V2's with a pair of Focal Sopra No2's was one of the most frustrating things I've encountered with this hobby. Before the subs arrived, I spent the time and got the Sopra's positioned to get the most from them, had that "performer in the room" presentation. The bass that the Sopra's have is very good, but they don't go nearly as deep as any decent sub woofer. But my "man cave" had terrible acoustics in the low bass region; when a bass player was moving up and down the registers, the room added one tone, regardless of what the bass player was playing. It took me a lot of struggle, moving the subs around, and eventually buying a calibration microphone to use with REW to position 10 bass traps, to control the room's resonances. Eventually I got it "just right". I have an audio buddy who doesn't believe in subs, came over and asked if the subs were playing, to him, it didn't sound like I had subs connected...until I turned off the preamp output to the subs. I think I may have converted his lifelong opinion on adding subs.
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