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C500T change to the new C2700?
Anyone that have heard the new C2700? Is it a upgrade to trade my C500T in to the new C2700?
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Not having directly compared it is difficult to say. I really like the fully balanced two box series and believe it is inherently superior to a one box preamp. I am sure McIntosh will eventually surpass its older two box units with newer one box preamplifiers. Whether the 2700 is that piece....
Please share your experiences. Best of luck. Mike S. |
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Are the specs better on the C2700? If not, I wouldn't do it... plus the C500 is cooler looking IMO.
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C500T change to the new C2700?
Never heard the C2700. I owned the C500C/T at the same time as the C2300. No competition. The C2300, which I loved, sounded veiled in comparison to C500. Stick with the C500. This is my own opinion, not widely shared, but I believe the C500 is essentially a C1000 without the ability to switch on the fly between tube and solid state boxes, minus the awesome casework. Your C500 is a classic. I would not trade it for a one box Mcintosh preamp with dac built in.
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Preamp: McIntosh C1100T/C1100C, McIntosh MX180 Amp: McIntosh MC611 (2), MC601 (3), MI254 Digital: McIntosh D1100, McIntosh MCT450, Meridian 808v6, Aurender N20, Aurender ACS10, Oppo 203 Analog: McIntosh MT10, Hana Umami Red Phono preamp: Simaudio Moon 610LP, 820S Signal cables: WW Gold Eclipse 7 speaker cables; Shunyata Sigma v2 XLR (2); Sigma v1 XLR (2), Transparent Ref XL (MM2) XLR; WW Silver Eclipse 7 (4) Digital cables: Shunyata Omega USB, Omega Ethernet, Sigma Ethernet; WW Platinum 7 Coax, AES/EBU Switch: Innuos PhoenixNet Power: Audioquest Niagara 7000, Audioquest 5000, Audioquest Dragon, Hurricane PC, Shunyata Alpha HC, AQ NRG Edison outlets, (8) 20 amp dedicated lines, 125 amp subpanel Speakers: Wilson Sasha DAW, Dynaudio Contour 30, Dynaudio Contour 25C Subs: REL s/812 (6), REL s/510 (3) Accessories: HRS M3X2 shelf (MT10), Stillpoints Ultra II v2 w/ bases (21), Ultra SS (12), Mini (12), LPi v1 Sound treaments: Artnovion |
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The current upgrade path from the C500 would be the C 1100. I made the move a few years ago and never looked back. I have not heard the C 2700 but expect it would be a parallel move at best.
The C500 is a cost reduced version of the flagship C 1000 system, sharing the same internal architecture and most of the components. Tom
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Main System: Amati Futura Mains Amati Homage VOX Center, Proac Response 1sc Rears, Three MC2301's for L,C,R MC 602 for the rears C 1100, MX 151, MCD 1100, MR 80 Nottingham Dais with Wave Mechanic Sumiko Palo Santos Presentation SurfacePro 3, RPi 4, ROON, WW Starlight Platinum USB, Schiit Yggdrasil, Benchmark DAC3 HGC MX 151, OppO BDP-95, JVC RS-500 DILA projector, 106" diagonal Stewart Luxus Screenwall Deluxe with Studiotek 130 G3 material. Lake House: Ohm F, MC 275V, C2300, MR 77, Rega P3 OnDeck: McIntosh MAC 4300v |
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I'll share j3brow's not widely shared opinion--you'd be trading down.
You didn't ask, but I notice from your signature that your (awesome) Mc electronics are a step above your (very good) CM10 speakers in terms of how most would allocate budget. If you have the bug to upgrade, maybe that would be the place to look?
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That said ... Having actually listened to and purchased a C2700, permit me to offer a few thoughts. I had the opportunity to compare a C1100 and a C2700. The C2700 has significantly narrowed the sonic gap between the two chassis and one chassis Mac preamps. Much that was learned by McIntosh about topology in designing the C1100 was incorporated into the C2600 and carried over to the C2700. The C2700 is markedly improved in every way over the C2300 (and C2500) so making inferences by memory is a well-intended but tenuous exercise. Depending on what recordings you are listening to (or trying to listen to), the availability of tone controls could be the deciding factor for you. To be honest, I would not have a preamp without modern, clean tone controls (that can be bypassed) to deal with artistically important but sonically flawed recordings that no amount of cable upgrading, room tuning, etc. are likely to 'fix'. YMMV. Have fun. Happy listening. Respectfully, Bob _________________________ Sources: Koetsu Onyx Gold/Clearaudio Innovation Wood w/Universal Arm 9”; MCT500 CD/SACD transport; OPPO 205; NAD C446 Internet Tuner; Nakamichi 670ZX cassette deck. Electronics: MacIntosh C2700 preamp w/DA2 and MC462 power amp. Speakers: Wilson Yvettes Headphones: MacIntosh MHP 1000 Interconnects: Transparent G5 balanced and speaker cables; MCT - MCT500 -> C2700.Power cords: Transparent (on preamp, power amp and transport). Surge protected. Record cleaner: Kirmuss KA-RC-1. Last edited by Bob Bubeck; 03-30-2020 at 11:48 AM. Reason: Fix typo. |
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Bob Bubeck: what preamp did you have befor the c2700?
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Mcintosh C500T Mcintosh MC452 Schiit Yggdrasil A2 B&W CM10 S2 REL S812 |
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What about the C70 compared to the C500T or C2700? Anyone lucky enough to hear a shootout of any of these?
The C70 would be my next choice after the C500T. I have never heard one, but it looks super cool! |
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A C2500, which is easily bested by the new C2700 in S/N, clarity of sound stage, apparent bass response, neutrality, modular DA2, etc. Hence, the upgrade. Hope this helps.
Respectfully, Bob _______________________________ Sources: Koetsu Onyx Gold/Clearaudio Innovation Wood w/Universal Arm 9”; MCT500 CD/SACD transport; OPPO 205; NAD C446 Internet Tuner; Nakamichi 670ZX cassette deck. Electronics: MacIntosh C2700 preamp w/DA2 and MC462 power amp. Speakers: Wilson Yvettes Headphones: MacIntosh MHP 1000 Interconnects: Transparent G5 balanced and speaker cables; MCT - MCT500 -> C2700.Power cords: Transparent (on preamp, power amp and transport). Surge protected. Record cleaner: Kirmuss KA-RC-1 ultrasonic. |
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