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My advice is to just get one of the Shunyata Ethernet cables; the best one that is within your budget. I did a comprehensive competitive benchmarking of half a dozen or so Ethernet cables last year and even the Venom completely smoked everything else I had rented in to evaluate. It was by such a large margin that I remember laughing out loud one night when I replaced the Vodka, which actually is a nice-sounding Ethernet cable, with the Venom. I mean, it wasn't even close; the Venom blew the Vodka into weeds. The Delta, Alpha, Sigma, and Omega are all absolutely superb within their respective price ranges, and each one notably outperforms the one below it in the portfolio.
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Lumin P1 streamer/DAC/preamp, Constellation Inspiration integrated TT: Michell Gyro SE MkII, SME V, Koetsu Urushi Vermilion, EAR324. Harbeth 30.2s, REL R-305, Shunyata Alpha V2 ICs, Alpha V2 SPs, Sigma XC, Sigma NRv2, Omega QR-s & Alpha NRv2 PCs, segmented Altaira SG stack w/ Alpha & Omega CGCs, Everest 8000 PD. Remote Server Room: Uptone EtherREGEN, AfterDark Master Clock & LPS, Alita, Battle Angel, (Akasa NUC Roon Core), iFi DC Purifiers (for SMPS used for Alita & router), Shunyata Gemini combo power distributor & Altaira-type CG GP-NR hub, Venom & Alpha CGCs, Shunyata NRv14 power cords for digital components. Last edited by Puma Cat; 09-29-2020 at 01:22 AM. |
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ChordMusic streaming is just under £4K for 1M here in the UK.
Yes I’ve heard it, it’s a very nice cable. In terms of performance I would say it sits between Alpha and Sigma. The Omega operates in a completely different league. It’s a dramatic and unexpected jump over Sigma, you almost have to pinch yourself! We are getting very interesting feedback from dealers in the UK, the Omega Ethernet is really helping to redefine what is possible with streaming. Never has Tidal and Qobuz sounded so good!! Cheers, Guillaume |
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I agree with Kleinbje. it truly is astonishing that these things make the difference they do. I have an Alpha and Sigma in my system and have ordered an Omega to replace the Alpha. I just have to hear what this is like but I do find the idea of further improvement (substantial improvement) improbable/inexplicable.
And of course this is for an ethernet connection to my server which conveys no music (all music on a hard drive on the server). Think about that! |
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Lumin P1 streamer/DAC/preamp, Constellation Inspiration integrated TT: Michell Gyro SE MkII, SME V, Koetsu Urushi Vermilion, EAR324. Harbeth 30.2s, REL R-305, Shunyata Alpha V2 ICs, Alpha V2 SPs, Sigma XC, Sigma NRv2, Omega QR-s & Alpha NRv2 PCs, segmented Altaira SG stack w/ Alpha & Omega CGCs, Everest 8000 PD. Remote Server Room: Uptone EtherREGEN, AfterDark Master Clock & LPS, Alita, Battle Angel, (Akasa NUC Roon Core), iFi DC Purifiers (for SMPS used for Alita & router), Shunyata Gemini combo power distributor & Altaira-type CG GP-NR hub, Venom & Alpha CGCs, Shunyata NRv14 power cords for digital components. Last edited by Puma Cat; 09-30-2020 at 11:42 PM. |
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Puma Cat thanks for the explanation. I do not have the understanding you do so my approach is that the system is very sensitive to noise and i have focussed 2 contact points with outside world; ethernet and power. So both require best treatment possible in order to listen to the actual music.
Perhaps hubristic of me but I sometimes wonder how many people are actually listening to a sound which is not substantially impacted by distortion. I certainly am stunned every time another wad of distortion is removed from the system. Always more music sounding more and more real every time. |
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Jim Bedroom: Aurender N150, TEAC UD-505 AKM version (to be replaced by inbound Bryston BDA-3), EMIA Cu Elmaformer passive line stage, conrad-johnson MF2500, Paradigm Studio 20 v5. Shunyata Delta D6, Altaira CG hub. Shunyata Alpha XC, Delta NR v2, Alpha USB, Alpha and Venom CGC/SGC. Wireworld Eclipse 8 interconnect & speaker cables. Stillpoints footers, Butcher Block Acoustics maple platforms. Stillpoints and GIK acoustic panels. Home Office:Windows 11 PC/JRiver 31, TEAC UD-501, Luminous Audio Technology Axiom II Walker Mod passive, conrad-johnson Sonographe SA-250, Paradigm SE-1. Shunyata Hydra (Original Version), Venom 10 NR. Wireworld Eclipse 7 interconnects. Blue Jeans speaker cable. Living-Dining Room: Windows 11 Laptop/JRiver 29, Oppo BD-83, TEAC UD-501 DAC, SOTA Sapphire TT, Graham Slee Era Gold V, Ortofon 2M Black, McIntosh MR-77, c-j Sonographe SC-25, c-j MF2500, Paradigm SE-3. Wireworld 8 IC, Blue Jeans SC. Shunyata Hydra 8 v.2, Shunyata Delta NR, Venom NR. GIK 244 bass & scatter-plate panels. Last edited by jimtranr; 10-02-2020 at 07:27 PM. |
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You are correct that most distortion that can be removed (for the most part) is beneficial. There are some 2nd-order harmonic distortions that people find pleasant to listen, too, though. Certainly with respect to digital music reproduction, jitter and timing errors are (distortion in the time domain, for example) very notable and unpleasant for most listeners. I think the important thing to remember that our perception of air pressure waves as "music" is a construct of the brain, much as is our perception of color (i.e., our eyes are not spectrophotometers).
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Lumin P1 streamer/DAC/preamp, Constellation Inspiration integrated TT: Michell Gyro SE MkII, SME V, Koetsu Urushi Vermilion, EAR324. Harbeth 30.2s, REL R-305, Shunyata Alpha V2 ICs, Alpha V2 SPs, Sigma XC, Sigma NRv2, Omega QR-s & Alpha NRv2 PCs, segmented Altaira SG stack w/ Alpha & Omega CGCs, Everest 8000 PD. Remote Server Room: Uptone EtherREGEN, AfterDark Master Clock & LPS, Alita, Battle Angel, (Akasa NUC Roon Core), iFi DC Purifiers (for SMPS used for Alita & router), Shunyata Gemini combo power distributor & Altaira-type CG GP-NR hub, Venom & Alpha CGCs, Shunyata NRv14 power cords for digital components. |
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i received my Omega E/net cable today.
the Omega e/net cable cost ~ 5% of total system cost. It cost more than the speakers I am listening to (2nd hand AN-E kit audio note speakers). it also cost as much as my amp (2nd hand SPEC M3EX). the amp is a seriously nice thing. so these comparisons aren't supposed to be favourable. a recent theme for me has been that i have gone over board on power and cables. the power at my home is very dirty and i have ended up with shunyata this and that. a sigma usb cable for example. alpha interconnects. a sigma XC to the PC. anyway i must admit that i tried to cancel the Omega. in the above vein i figured i was spending more on cords than i ought. i should spend money on amplifiers and speakers. that's where the rich rewards lay. OK so these cables take ages to settle in. that's my experience with all shunyata cables to date. Mr Gabriel talks about this. different to burning in. i think he uses the word "settling". so i shouldn't be saying anything. too soon. BUT, what i am hearing is insane. i run digital and want it to sound like analog. i think Omega does more to achieve that than anything else i have experienced yet. it is "startling" what you hear. and it is not accentuation of what was there before or a different "flavour". it's stuff you've never heard before as well as a sense of atmosphere. biggest improvement is bass (my favourite) and a general sense of timing. it is one of those changes that connects you to the music as opposed to making you think more about your system. highly recommended. Last edited by mr_gray; 10-29-2020 at 03:07 AM. |
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