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Old 11-28-2012, 11:33 AM
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Default Revel Ultima Salon 2/Marantz MA9S2?

To those in the know....since the Revel's sensitivity is only about 86, could these monoblocks do them justice? Does anyone think that I would really want to get something different for power or perhaps double down and buy a couple more amps and try to bi-amp the speakers? Would I need another SC7S2?

I suspect that the amps could push them fine but I wonder about the limitations that high volumne listening would induce upon the amps in general.

Curious at this stage. Prices are coming down and I suspect if Marantz introduces new reference gear, more MA9S2 may appear on the used market.

Speculation, I know.

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Old 11-28-2012, 11:57 AM
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To those in the know....since the Revel's sensitivity is only about 86, could these monoblocks do them justice? Does anyone think that I would really want to get something different for power or perhaps double down and buy a couple more amps and try to bi-amp the speakers? Would I need another SC7S2?

I suspect that the amps could push them fine but I wonder about the limitations that high volumne listening would induce upon the amps in general.

Curious at this stage. Prices are coming down and I suspect if Marantz introduces new reference gear, more MA9S2 may appear on the used market.

Speculation, I know.

Thanks to all who post.
I owned the Salon 2's. If I was buying amps today for Salon 2's I would buy Classe CA-M600's, McIntosh 1.2kw or the Pass x600.5's (a pair just went up for sale here on AA).

I think 750 watts @ 4 ohms is the minimum for the Salon 2's and quite honestly I would suggest staying north of 1kw. I know there are some here who would disagree, but I found the more juice you give the Salon 2's, the more they ate and the better they sounded.

If you need cheap power - then the Anthem M1's are worth a look. The reviews aren't stellar though - however, we do have a user here on AA who has the Salon 2's and Anthem M1's and liked it a lot on the Salon 2's. That being said, he is upgrading to the Classe CA-M600's. His username is MDP - maybe you can talk to him about his M1's?

Great speakers by the way! I loved mine when I had them.

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Old 11-28-2012, 04:10 PM
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Mike.......Good advice. One thing is certain, you learned 300 watts per channel doesn't cut it with the Salon 2's.
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Mike.......Good advice. One thing is certain, you learned 300 watts per channel doesn't cut it with the Salon 2's.
That is good advice. However, the Marantz amps 'double down' with the wattage based on loads(as I understand it). So, since the Revels are rated 6 ohms nominal, would that not mean the Marantz may be generating roughly 450 wpc+/1 giving the load it is pushing?

I had a feeling the speakers could absorb a lot of power, hence my question.

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Mike.......Good advice. One thing is certain, you learned 300 watts per channel doesn't cut it with the Salon 2's.


Would you guys stop already with this "not enough power for the salons" talk? You are really starting to make me feel insecure with my measely 400 wpc MC452 Do I really need more power for the Salons?

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Would you guys stop already with this "not enough power for the salons" talk? You are really starting to make me feel insecure with my measely 400 wpc MC452 Do I really need more power for the Salons?

Do I hear dual MC452's?
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Would you guys stop already with this "not enough power for the salons" talk? You are really starting to make me feel insecure with my measely 400 wpc MC452 Do I really need more power for the Salons?

Jeff.......I own a MC452 and can tell you it is one powerful two channel amplifier. I believe you meant to say it puts our 450 watts per channel, not 400, but that's only part of the story. The MC452 can easily deliver 650 watts per channel on peaks with out breaking a sweat or flickering the Power Guard lights. The MC452 is the perfect place to be with the Salon 2's unless your typical listening level consistently approaches stadium rock concert levels. You have no reason to be nervous about anything.
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Thank you Dan! I feel much better now.

And Joe? You are my neighbor! You're supposed to tell me it's OK, just like Dan, lol.
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Here is a pic I took when I had my 601"s easily pumping 450 watts thru my Kefs and the amps still sounded amazing and the amp could easily do more
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Thank you Dan! I feel much better now.

And Joe? You are my neighbor! You're supposed to tell me it's OK, just like Dan, lol.
It's ok! Dan is right, that 452 is woefully under rated. Like the 601's too.

Dan is right, the 2301's are awesome and they sounded sweet on the Salon 2's, but those Salon 2's of mine were power hungry!!
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