Move over, tidal

[2fastdriving]

https://www.audiostream.com/content/...eaming-service

[doggiehowser]

How much music do I listen to that's on Chesky vs Warner and Sony on TIDAL?

The old dog isn't dead yet methinks

[Garytn]

This is good news. Tidal is already there. Now HDtracks is getting in the game, and Spotify is still making noise about getting in the hi-res game. I certainly hope the market will bear many entrants. That would be a positive sign for our hobby/obsession. If we are going to continue to attract a lot of new participants to this game, streaming is important.

[Yamaki]

Looking forward to hearing what folks think about the service, what the download rates are and what the format & resolution will be.

[Still-One]

This development is welcome but poses many questions. They will have to offer many more titles than the limited number of hi-rez offerings on their current site. IMO they are going to take a hit on the current site since you will probably get a month of hi rez streaming for what they currently charge for 1 to 2 downloads. (Sure there will always be audiophiles who prefer to "own" rather than rent their music, but that number is dwindling.)

I think this shows if you want to survive or participate in the music market beyond that which caters to the niche audiophile segment, streaming is a must for the future.

[crwilli]

Originally Posted by Still-One

This development is welcome but poses many questions. They will have to offer many more titles than the limited number of hi-rez offerings on their current site. IMO they are going to take a hit on the current site since you will probably get a month of hi rez streaming for what they currently charge for 1 to 2 downloads. (Sure there will always be audiophiles who prefer to "own" rather than rent their music, but that number is dwindling.)

I think this shows if you want to survive or participate in the music market beyond that which caters to the niche audiophile segment, streaming is a must for the future.

I agree but it makes me wonder what the y-t-y and last 3 year growth rates are for the current list of hi-Rez streaming subscriptions (like Deezer, Tidal Hi Fi), Pandora/Spotify etc low res subscriptions as well as physical media and download purchases.

[Still-One]

Originally Posted by crwilli

I agree but it makes me wonder what the y-t-y and last 3 year growth rates are for the current list of hi-Rez streaming subscriptions (like Deezer, Tidal Hi Fi), Pandora/Spotify etc low res subscriptions as well as physical media and download purchases.

The last numbers I saw showed continued decline in CD and download sales. Not sure how Hi-rez downloads fit in with those numbers. Streaming services continue to add paying customers but Spotify still is mostly ad based listeners. One issue for audiophiles is that Apple, Google and Amazon have others sources of revenue to support their streaming services. It seems like us audiophiles prefer Tidal, Deezer, Spotify etc who are in more precarious financial positions.

[FloridaBoy]

Originally Posted by crwilli

I agree but it makes me wonder what the y-t-y and last 3 year growth rates are for the current list of hi-Rez streaming subscriptions (like Deezer, Tidal Hi Fi), Pandora/Spotify etc low res subscriptions as well as physical media and download purchases.

You can find the stats on the web. None of the streaming services are profitable yet. CD sales have tanked. If/when Spotify offers lossless streaming
that may win over more audionuts but how many of us are there compared to the MP3 generation? It's all still pretty murky.

[jimtranr]

The 'Net--or, alternately, ISPs--will never fail for any appreciable period of time because the safeguards are so strong that such an eventuality is unthinkable.

Which is why, he says, tongue planted firmly in cheek, this old fogey who once served time as a computing administrator still relies on purchased hi-rez downloads rather than streaming services for his not-already-in-his-collection listening. And backs them up immediately upon their arrival.

Of course, if the power grid itself gets hacked...

Please pardon the snarkiness. I really am an old fogey.

Jim

[FloridaBoy]

Please pardon the snarkiness. I really am an old fogey.

At 65, I resemble that remark. I'll likely purchase some Hi rez downloads but really would like to see lossless streaming simply for the convenience .