Cremona M Room Placement

[bodiezaffa]

I've heard the 7t's- wonderful speaker that also generates a lot of bass.

[Dr. Sleep]

Originally Posted by Rick U

I guess I'm asking if they need more space than a front ported or a sealed cabinet? The dealer was giving me some formula between 8 - 12" is okay then comes a dead spot, then bla bla.. It just sounded boomy and wandering how far off the wall they need. My wife doesn't want speakers way out in the room.

For what it's worth, I've got my Spendors A6's placed much closer to wall than "recommended" and they sound great AND they are rear ported. I've move them up closer, out farther apart, never back until I just said what the hell. Moved them just under three inches closer to the wall and BAM the bass came into focus, image stabilized, everything came together. They are almost as far apart as the distance to my center seating position.
As other posters have said, there is no hard and fast rule. Experiment until they sound good to you. Additional acoustic treatment to the room may help as well.

[AudioPhilio]

Originally Posted by Rick U

The room is 15" wide with a vaulted ceiling. I don't have too much flexibility to move further from the wall because of the area rug. Bigger speakers will have even less wiggle room. I'm hoping to upgrade my speakers. I considered the Cremona's mostly because I know I like the SF sound. I'm interested in the Canton's and also the Aerial 7T's but have not heard them anywhere let alone in a room like mine.

Rick,
I have a similar room arrangement to yours. My ceilings are 18' vaulted as well and since it is a common family room I don't have the option of moving my speakers much at all. I have spent a lot of time over the last 2 years with the Cremonas tweaking all aspects of my limited range and have pretty good sound all things considered. The bass in not at all boomy in this room (it opens to the kitchen straight back and the foyer on one side). It is well controlled, punchy, and tight.

Based on your pictures it looks like your present speakers are not really that tight compared to what I am faced with. It appears you have a decent amount of room to work with. As others have said, every room setup is unique. I really just wanted to let you know I have good results with a tight speaker setup, and I love the sound. It is open, musical, and has decent imaging.

I am also a fan of SF aesthetics, which to me is the frosting on cake. Not only does it sound delicious, it looks beautiful

[Masterlu]

Very Elegant, I like it very much.

[Royzak]

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No boom in this odd shaped smallish room.I know this is nothing like your room but it does show how these speakers can work in in not ideal spaces.

[antipop]

I've found that the SF can work in less than ideal environment but precise setup is required, as for any speaker, to get all that they can deliver.

I've had someone to come to my house to inspect them and I had a much better sound after just a few tweaks in position despite the constraints of the room.

The next major improvement was after he removed the banana plugs. This was a game changer. The plugs were removing a lot of the details.

After he left, I had a new system without spending any money on gears

[esteban]

Since I have been thinking of upgrading to the Cremona M's for quite some time, and my room is also on the small side, I am following this thread with great interest. Photos are much appreciated.

Originally Posted by antipop

The next major improvement was after he removed the banana plugs. This was a game changer. The plugs were removing a lot of the details.

After he left, I had a new system without spending any money on gears

Antipop, do you mean to say that you went from banana plugs to bare wire? Or from bananas to spades? Curious to hear more details about this.

[antipop]

Originally Posted by esteban

Antipop, do you mean to say that you went from banana plugs to bare wire? Or from bananas to spades? Curious to hear more details about this.

I went from banana to bare. For sake of clarity, the banana were added to a bare wire, they were not factory installed as some manufacturer do. These were not cheap banana but rather expensive furutech ones.

I have spades on the amp side, I'll try to remove them and see if there is a difference.

[esteban]

Originally Posted by antipop

I went from banana to bare. For sake of clarity, the banana were added to a bare wire, they were not factory installed as some manufacturer do. These were not cheap banana but rather expensive furutech ones.

I have spades on the amp side, I'll try to remove them and see if there is a difference.

Interesting. Thanks for the clarification.

[bodiezaffa]

Originally Posted by Royzak

No boom in this odd shaped smallish room.I know this is nothing like your room but it does show how these speakers can work in in not ideal spaces.

Your room looks great to me.