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Old 10-04-2017, 09:17 AM
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The Wilson diodes + spikes and Stillpoints work differently. Diodes+spikes aim to drain energy from the speaker cabinet into the floor. Sillpoints intends to convert speaker cabinet energy into heat.

I'm sceptical of the overall effectiveness of the UltraSS under an Alexia and reasonably confident you will not get the benefit from them that you could if you put UltraSS under, say, an electronic component with a power supply or transformer. The UltraSS is too small for the Alexia, imo. The sound will probably change but you may not get what you think you're paying for.

The Alexias were designed for use with the diodes+spikes they come with. Neither are the Stillpoints a universal product.

Stillpoints can be effective when used appropriately. They are not "voodoo". I found the UltraSS work very well under heavy amplifiers.
Excellent posts and as you have posted, exactly what I had been told by my dealer & several within Wilson Audio .

"X" material construction of the Alexia and overall design & sound produced will be greatly impacted to something less than factory intended.

The intent of the diodes and spikes is as you say drain the main module of resonances rather than store it inside itself.

I'm all for improving the sound as many audiophiles; but not at the expense of what I paid dearly for. Accessories such as the Stillpoints for my speakers is not on my bucket list.

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Old 10-04-2017, 11:41 AM
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All - this post has helped me make up my mind and stay the course using OEM diodes and spikes as intended and designed, thank you!
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All - this post has helped me make up my mind and stay the course using OEM diodes and spikes as intended and designed, thank you!
Always a great idea to follow the manufacturer's advice
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All - this post has helped me make up my mind and stay the course using OEM diodes and spikes as intended and designed, thank you!
When I installed Stillpoint 5's under my X2's they sounded great. A month later I removed them and they sounded better.

Sometimes I wonder if we just like change for changes sake. I left them off.
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So today, I took the day off work or what I consider off, after coordinating an install for tweaking and spiking the speakers months after I set things up.

So following up to this thread, it’s member support, along with Sunny Merchant - Sunnys Audio and Stirling Trayle - Installation Guru, the casters are gone, and the Wilson spikes are under the Alexia’s making a profound difference along with various settings of the mid and tweeter.

We spent over 5 hours today and honestly can say it was so worth it - I am very happy [emoji2]

Goes to show, be patient, make the most of what you have and benchmark the performance level to help you plan your audio journey.

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So today, I took the day off work or what I consider off, after coordinating an install for tweaking and spiking the speakers months after I set things up.

So following up to this thread, it’s member support, along with Sunny Merchant - Sunnys Audio and Stirling Trayle - Installation Guru, the casters are gone, and the Wilson spikes are under the Alexia’s making a profound difference along with various settings of the mid and tweeter.

We spent over 5 hours today and honestly can say it was so worth it - I am very happy [emoji2]

Goes to show, be patient, make the most of what you have and benchmark the performance level to help you plan your audio journey.

Happy Listening to All!

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So today, I took the day off work or what I consider off, after coordinating an install for tweaking and spiking the speakers months after I set things up.

So following up to this thread, it’s member support, along with Sunny Merchant - Sunnys Audio and Stirling Trayle - Installation Guru, the casters are gone, and the Wilson spikes are under the Alexia’s making a profound difference along with various settings of the mid and tweeter.

We spent over 5 hours today and honestly can say it was so worth it - I am very happy [emoji2]

Goes to show, be patient, make the most of what you have and benchmark the performance level to help you plan your audio journey.

Happy Listening to All!

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Congratulations on the install. Sunny is very knowledgeable. He was at my house on Thursday and mentioned that he had an install to do Friday. Your amps are beautiful! I just ordered from him the Progressions in black. Happy listening to you.
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There is a lot of voodoo and snake oil with these tweaky items.



Spend your money carefully.

I cannot talk about the StillPoints but when I had my WP8, I had a bass issue with the spikes. The bass was a bit fat and unclear but most of all it contaminated the mids.
The first thing my wife told me after listening to a few tunes in english was :
"Is it normal not to understand the lyrics anymore ? ". We are french and our previous speakers were the PMC EB1i with stunning mids transparency.
Switching the spikes with Pro Audio Bono anti vibration feet made a huge difference.
The bass tightened and got much leaner and defined. And a whole world of mids opened up.
An other plus of such footers is the ability to move the speakers easily.
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Against the gurus recommendations, I switched out the OEM spikes and repurposed them with my sets of Ansuz’s Darkz DTC.

Like anything I experienced tradeoffs. Playing in this manner for the past few weeks things got a little tight in the bass but the mid range was not as resolving, but not in a way of turning back so quick.

I was going to be patient, maybe hoping specific parts of recorded material would miraculously snap back, but mechanical grounding takes no time to settle in and I was just being stupid.

So tonight, I changed back to the OEM spikes and things snapped back right where my two ears knew it was right.

Here is where you can tweak to your blue in the face, only to come back to where you left. So many variables in building these systems, it can drive one crazy!

Ohh, the Darkz DTC are great pieces and will go back to floating components in conjunction with Stillpoints.

Here is what they look like if your not familiar, they are 3 layers of a specialty metal with ceramic balls - so simple to make, but so costly.

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