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Old 07-02-2020, 12:27 PM
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My ear level is 7 inches below the tweeter level of my speakers. My speakers have a separate tweeter/midrange cabinet and a woofer cabinet.

My question is, should I raise the back of the tweeter/mid cabinet to have the tweeter point more to my ear level or should I somehow raise my seating to match the level or the tweeter?
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My ear level is 7 inches below the tweeter level of my speakers. My speakers have a separate tweeter/midrange cabinet and a woofer cabinet.

My question is, should I raise the back of the tweeter/mid cabinet to have the tweeter point more to my ear level or should I somehow raise my seating to match the level or the tweeter?
Unless there is something unusual about your listening height my answer would be absolutely no. The OM should address this issue. These are extremely well designed speakers. I'm sure they sound fantastic. The alteration you mention I strongly suspect would be deleterious. It would takes weeks of listening because you would be fundamentally changing the design parameters of the VR-5. Greg Weaver has an excellent review of the VR-5 online. I would read it. Very positive. I have a lot of respect for Greg Weaver. He knows Von Schweikert speakers and has a pair of Ultra 9's.

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Unless there is something unusual about your listening height my answer would be absolutely no. The OM should address this issue. These are extremely well designed speakers. I'm sure they sound fantastic. The alteration you mention I strongly suspect would be deleterious. It would takes weeks of listening because you would be fundamentally changing the design parameters of the VR-5. Greg Weaver has an excellent review of the VR-5 online. I would read it. Very positive. I have a lot of respect for Greg Weaver. He knows Von Schweikert speakers and has a pair of Ultra 9's.

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Thanks Charles...much appreciated.
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From the manual:

FOCAL POINT OF ARRAY: The VR-5 is Time Aligned by use of mechanically displaced voice coils achieved by the tilt-back M/T module and the specialized Global Axis Integration Network
crossover circuit, which achieves the desired phase-consistent sound field over a wide listening area. If you must situate the speakers close together, with a close listening position for near field applications (such as in a recording studio), you may not need to toe the speakers in towards you, but you will need to sit with your ears on the tweeter’s vertical axis for flattest frequency response. The treble response and depth of field will be differentiated when you compare zero toe in with full toe in, please experiment. Note that recording studio near-field monitoring will require substantial absorption or diffusion of the boundaries closest to the M/T modules.
In an average room situation, where the distance between the speakers is equal or lesser than the seating distance, use the following Pink Noise Listening Test to determine the best location for image focus:

Looks like I need to raise my seating position.
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