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01-01-2015, 10:53 AM
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What isolation products to get?
I would like to get recommendations for all the product I would need or want for isolation on my entire system. I thought I would just order Herbies, but I have been reading so much lately on the forum that I thought I would ask for opinions.
Here is a list of all the equipment. Speakers are all from Von Schweikert Audio: 1. VR4 Jr’s - Front - On a marble floor 2. LCR-15 - Center - Suspended in a wood encasement below the TV 3. TS-150 Rear Surround - hanging on a concrete wall 4. V-12 Sub - On a marble floor Amplifier and Preamp 1. 4 Odyssey Kismet amplifiers in Khartago cases - stacked 2 high - will be on custom built wood shelves to raise them above the Silenzio Media Server on one side and the SurgeX power conditioner on the other side. 2. Bryston PS3 - between the two stacks of amplifiers on a concrete shelf 3. Silenzio Media Sever and 6TB NAS - Silenzio will be on concrete shelf under 1 stack of amps. The NAS will likely be in a different room. Television - Sharp - on a wood shelf above the amps Cable Box - DSR 630 - Shaw Cable - just under tv to shield from heat Computer - Mac Mini - hidden behind TV Internet Modem- Fiber Optic - modem behind TV I may want to do this in stages as I see price points on products like Stillpoints and cringe. I am already in the doghouse for how much I spent this month on my new system, and my wife doesn't really know the total yet. I don't even mind if I have to spend more over a 3 or 4 month period as a result. In other words get something to start and replace them slowly over time so I don't get in more trouble. LOL
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Amplifiers: Odyssey Audio Kismet Extremes in Stratos Case (Left, Right Channels), Kismet Extreme in Khartago Case (Center Channel), Kismet Extreme Stereo in Khartago Case (Rear Channels) Speakers: Von Schweikert Audio VR4jr mk3 (soon to be VR-55's), Visiun Center Channel, TS-150 Rears, (2) Shockwave V-10 Subs Preamp: Bryston SP-3 Digital: Audio by E – Silenzio AE-S2.5 high performance media server, Synology DS1815+ setup by Audio by E Cables: ZenWave Audio all around Power Conditioner: SurgeX SEQ - ZenWave Audio Edition Isolation: Stillpoints under everything 
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01-01-2015, 12:41 PM
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Herbies are nice products, but do nothing to improve the sound (ask me how I know)
 Stillpoints on the other hand are the real deal. 
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Ivan FLORIDA MX136, MC1.2KW(10) MC2KW(2), MCD1100, MS750(2) MVP881, C1000C/P/T, MPC1500, HT-2 SUBS(2) HT3F(2) WS350(2) XRT2K, XCS2K, XR27(2) XCS350(2) JL GOTHAM v2 SUBS(2) SILENZIO MUSIC SERVER, LUMAGEN RADIANCE SCALER, SONY VPH-G90U 4K PROJECTOR, STEWART 120" MOTORIZED SCREEN, CINEMA-TECH SEATING, WW PLATINUM CABLES Reference System: ACCUPHASE A300 AMPS, C3900 PRE-AMP, DP1000 CD/SACD TRANSPORT, DC1000 DIGITAL PROCESSOR, DG-68 DIGITAL EQUALIZER, T1200 FM STEREO TUNER, PS1230 POWER SUPPLY, HRS-SXR CUSTOM RACK w/ M3X SHELVES, TAD REFERENCE ONE MK2 LOUDSPEAKERS, WW PLATINUM CABLES CAPE COD MX150, MC501(2) MC1.2KW(10) MC2301(2) MR88, MVP881, MCD1100, MDA1000, C1000C/P/T, MPC1500, ESOTERIC K-01X 30th ANNIVERSARY (BLACK) SACD/CD PLAYER, G02-X CLOCK, HT3F(2) XRT2K, XCS2K, XR27(2) JL GOTHAM v2 SUBS(2) JL FATHOM F113v2 SUBS(4) SOUND ANCHOR STANDS(2) KALEIDESCAPE STRATO & TERRA SERVERS 80-TB, LUMAGEN RADIANCE SCALER, SONY VPH-G90U 4K PROJECTOR, STEWART 120" SCREEN, SONUS FABER STRADIVARI, SILENZIO MUSIC SERVER, FORTRESS SEATING, WW PLATINUM CABLES Analog Rig: CLEARAUDIO INNOVATION WOOD, UNIVERSAL ARM w/ Da VINCI' CART, 2nd UNIVERSAL ARM w/ GOLDFINGER STATEMENT CART, HRS-MXR REFERENCE RACK-GLOSS BLACK w/ M3X SHELVES, AESTHETIX RHEA SIG PHONO-PRE, BRYSTON BHA-1 HEADPHONE AMP, WW PLATINUM CABLES Reference System: BURMESTER 911MK3 AMP(3), 088 PRE-AMP, 089 CD PLAYER, 100 PHONO PRE-AMP, 948 POWER CONDITIONER, ACCUPHASE DG-68 VOICING EQUALIZER, AVID ACUTUS REFERENCE SP TT, GRAHAM PHANTOM II SUPREME ARM, BENZ MICRO LP-S CART, GRANDIOSO P1X/D1X STACK, G1X RUBIDIUM MASTER CLOCK, N05 NETWORK PLAYER, SILENZIO MUSIC SERVER, HRS-SXR CUSTOM RACK w/ M3X SHELVES, SONUS FABER AIDA SPEAKERS, JL FATHOM F113v2 SUBS(2) SOUND ANCHOR STANDS(2) WW PLATINUM CABLES Library System: GRANDIOSO M1 MONOBLOCK AMPS, C1 LINESTAGE PRE-AMP, K1X CD/SACD PLAYER, G1 MASTER RUBIDIUM CLOCK, E02 PHONO-PRE, SILENZIO MUSIC SERVER, AERIAL ACOUSTICS 20T V2, AERIAL SW12 SUBS(2), CANTON REF K1’s, VPI HRX TT w/ SDS POWER SUPPLY, ORTOFON CADENZA BLACK CART, KLAUDIO RCM, SHUNYATA DENALI 6000/S v2, SHUNYATA OMEGA QR’s, WW PLATINUM CABLES Esoteric/Bryston System: ESOTERIC C02-X PRE-AMP, P-02X TRANSPORT, D02-X DAC, G02-X CLOCK, BRYSTON 28B3 CUBED MONOBLOCK AMPS(4), BRYSTON BHA-1 HEADPHONE AMP, SHUNYATA DENALI 6000/S v2(2) EVEREST 8000 POWER CONDITIONER(2) ALTAIRA CG & SG HUBS, AMR-DP777-SE DAC, SILENZIO MUSIC SERVER, TAD REFERENCE ONE MK2 LOUDSPEAKERS, QUADRASPIRE RACK, WW PLATINUM CABLES Accuphase/Canton System: ACCUPHASE E800 INTEGRATED, DP570 CD/SACD PLAYER, T1200 FM STEREO TUNER, DG-68 VOICING EQUALIZER, PS530 POWER SUPPLY, CANTON REF K3’s, CANTON REF K5’s, SILENZIO MUSIC SERVER, HRS MXR REFERENCE MAHOGHANY RACK w/ M3X2 SHELVES, WW GOLD CABLES
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01-01-2015, 12:44 PM
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So the real question then is what do I need, what should I get first, and what is the damage going to be?  I guess I should just do it right, but do it over a couple of months. I can always find little (relative term) amounts of money.
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Amplifiers: Odyssey Audio Kismet Extremes in Stratos Case (Left, Right Channels), Kismet Extreme in Khartago Case (Center Channel), Kismet Extreme Stereo in Khartago Case (Rear Channels) Speakers: Von Schweikert Audio VR4jr mk3 (soon to be VR-55's), Visiun Center Channel, TS-150 Rears, (2) Shockwave V-10 Subs Preamp: Bryston SP-3 Digital: Audio by E – Silenzio AE-S2.5 high performance media server, Synology DS1815+ setup by Audio by E Cables: ZenWave Audio all around Power Conditioner: SurgeX SEQ - ZenWave Audio Edition Isolation: Stillpoints under everything
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01-01-2015, 01:10 PM
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Stillpoints are awesome; Symposium shelves and rollerblocks are very, very good. With many of us transitioning from Symposium to Stillpoints there may be some real bargains on some used gear.
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01-01-2015, 01:17 PM
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LOL, If many are transitioning, there is a reason why.
I don't have any problem getting what I need when I spread it over a couple of months. Only getting it all right now after I just pushed my luck with all the stuff I just bought and have not even gotten. I knew the answer would be Stillpoints, now I just need to understand what Stillpoints products to use, and the order of importance to the system.
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Amplifiers: Odyssey Audio Kismet Extremes in Stratos Case (Left, Right Channels), Kismet Extreme in Khartago Case (Center Channel), Kismet Extreme Stereo in Khartago Case (Rear Channels) Speakers: Von Schweikert Audio VR4jr mk3 (soon to be VR-55's), Visiun Center Channel, TS-150 Rears, (2) Shockwave V-10 Subs Preamp: Bryston SP-3 Digital: Audio by E – Silenzio AE-S2.5 high performance media server, Synology DS1815+ setup by Audio by E Cables: ZenWave Audio all around Power Conditioner: SurgeX SEQ - ZenWave Audio Edition Isolation: Stillpoints under everything
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01-01-2015, 01:19 PM
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Oh Man, I just realized how much starting to read this forum is going to cost me over the coming years.
Love it.
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Amplifiers: Odyssey Audio Kismet Extremes in Stratos Case (Left, Right Channels), Kismet Extreme in Khartago Case (Center Channel), Kismet Extreme Stereo in Khartago Case (Rear Channels) Speakers: Von Schweikert Audio VR4jr mk3 (soon to be VR-55's), Visiun Center Channel, TS-150 Rears, (2) Shockwave V-10 Subs Preamp: Bryston SP-3 Digital: Audio by E – Silenzio AE-S2.5 high performance media server, Synology DS1815+ setup by Audio by E Cables: ZenWave Audio all around Power Conditioner: SurgeX SEQ - ZenWave Audio Edition Isolation: Stillpoints under everything
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01-01-2015, 02:08 PM
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So after just reading articles on the Stillpoints website, I need at a very minimum, 40 Ultra Minis and 8 Ultra SS's or 40 Ultra SS's and 8 Ultra 5's for the speakers.
Holy Cow. Oh Well, Screw it.
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Amplifiers: Odyssey Audio Kismet Extremes in Stratos Case (Left, Right Channels), Kismet Extreme in Khartago Case (Center Channel), Kismet Extreme Stereo in Khartago Case (Rear Channels) Speakers: Von Schweikert Audio VR4jr mk3 (soon to be VR-55's), Visiun Center Channel, TS-150 Rears, (2) Shockwave V-10 Subs Preamp: Bryston SP-3 Digital: Audio by E – Silenzio AE-S2.5 high performance media server, Synology DS1815+ setup by Audio by E Cables: ZenWave Audio all around Power Conditioner: SurgeX SEQ - ZenWave Audio Edition Isolation: Stillpoints under everything
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01-01-2015, 02:10 PM
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Pushing your luck w/ the wife is part of the fun with this hobby.
 
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Ivan FLORIDA MX136, MC1.2KW(10) MC2KW(2), MCD1100, MS750(2) MVP881, C1000C/P/T, MPC1500, HT-2 SUBS(2) HT3F(2) WS350(2) XRT2K, XCS2K, XR27(2) XCS350(2) JL GOTHAM v2 SUBS(2) SILENZIO MUSIC SERVER, LUMAGEN RADIANCE SCALER, SONY VPH-G90U 4K PROJECTOR, STEWART 120" MOTORIZED SCREEN, CINEMA-TECH SEATING, WW PLATINUM CABLES Reference System: ACCUPHASE A300 AMPS, C3900 PRE-AMP, DP1000 CD/SACD TRANSPORT, DC1000 DIGITAL PROCESSOR, DG-68 DIGITAL EQUALIZER, T1200 FM STEREO TUNER, PS1230 POWER SUPPLY, HRS-SXR CUSTOM RACK w/ M3X SHELVES, TAD REFERENCE ONE MK2 LOUDSPEAKERS, WW PLATINUM CABLES CAPE COD MX150, MC501(2) MC1.2KW(10) MC2301(2) MR88, MVP881, MCD1100, MDA1000, C1000C/P/T, MPC1500, ESOTERIC K-01X 30th ANNIVERSARY (BLACK) SACD/CD PLAYER, G02-X CLOCK, HT3F(2) XRT2K, XCS2K, XR27(2) JL GOTHAM v2 SUBS(2) JL FATHOM F113v2 SUBS(4) SOUND ANCHOR STANDS(2) KALEIDESCAPE STRATO & TERRA SERVERS 80-TB, LUMAGEN RADIANCE SCALER, SONY VPH-G90U 4K PROJECTOR, STEWART 120" SCREEN, SONUS FABER STRADIVARI, SILENZIO MUSIC SERVER, FORTRESS SEATING, WW PLATINUM CABLES Analog Rig: CLEARAUDIO INNOVATION WOOD, UNIVERSAL ARM w/ Da VINCI' CART, 2nd UNIVERSAL ARM w/ GOLDFINGER STATEMENT CART, HRS-MXR REFERENCE RACK-GLOSS BLACK w/ M3X SHELVES, AESTHETIX RHEA SIG PHONO-PRE, BRYSTON BHA-1 HEADPHONE AMP, WW PLATINUM CABLES Reference System: BURMESTER 911MK3 AMP(3), 088 PRE-AMP, 089 CD PLAYER, 100 PHONO PRE-AMP, 948 POWER CONDITIONER, ACCUPHASE DG-68 VOICING EQUALIZER, AVID ACUTUS REFERENCE SP TT, GRAHAM PHANTOM II SUPREME ARM, BENZ MICRO LP-S CART, GRANDIOSO P1X/D1X STACK, G1X RUBIDIUM MASTER CLOCK, N05 NETWORK PLAYER, SILENZIO MUSIC SERVER, HRS-SXR CUSTOM RACK w/ M3X SHELVES, SONUS FABER AIDA SPEAKERS, JL FATHOM F113v2 SUBS(2) SOUND ANCHOR STANDS(2) WW PLATINUM CABLES Library System: GRANDIOSO M1 MONOBLOCK AMPS, C1 LINESTAGE PRE-AMP, K1X CD/SACD PLAYER, G1 MASTER RUBIDIUM CLOCK, E02 PHONO-PRE, SILENZIO MUSIC SERVER, AERIAL ACOUSTICS 20T V2, AERIAL SW12 SUBS(2), CANTON REF K1’s, VPI HRX TT w/ SDS POWER SUPPLY, ORTOFON CADENZA BLACK CART, KLAUDIO RCM, SHUNYATA DENALI 6000/S v2, SHUNYATA OMEGA QR’s, WW PLATINUM CABLES Esoteric/Bryston System: ESOTERIC C02-X PRE-AMP, P-02X TRANSPORT, D02-X DAC, G02-X CLOCK, BRYSTON 28B3 CUBED MONOBLOCK AMPS(4), BRYSTON BHA-1 HEADPHONE AMP, SHUNYATA DENALI 6000/S v2(2) EVEREST 8000 POWER CONDITIONER(2) ALTAIRA CG & SG HUBS, AMR-DP777-SE DAC, SILENZIO MUSIC SERVER, TAD REFERENCE ONE MK2 LOUDSPEAKERS, QUADRASPIRE RACK, WW PLATINUM CABLES Accuphase/Canton System: ACCUPHASE E800 INTEGRATED, DP570 CD/SACD PLAYER, T1200 FM STEREO TUNER, DG-68 VOICING EQUALIZER, PS530 POWER SUPPLY, CANTON REF K3’s, CANTON REF K5’s, SILENZIO MUSIC SERVER, HRS MXR REFERENCE MAHOGHANY RACK w/ M3X2 SHELVES, WW GOLD CABLES
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01-01-2015, 02:23 PM
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So who is transitioning from Ultra SS's to Ultra 5's right now. It looks like I am going to need a lot of them.
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Amplifiers: Odyssey Audio Kismet Extremes in Stratos Case (Left, Right Channels), Kismet Extreme in Khartago Case (Center Channel), Kismet Extreme Stereo in Khartago Case (Rear Channels) Speakers: Von Schweikert Audio VR4jr mk3 (soon to be VR-55's), Visiun Center Channel, TS-150 Rears, (2) Shockwave V-10 Subs Preamp: Bryston SP-3 Digital: Audio by E – Silenzio AE-S2.5 high performance media server, Synology DS1815+ setup by Audio by E Cables: ZenWave Audio all around Power Conditioner: SurgeX SEQ - ZenWave Audio Edition Isolation: Stillpoints under everything
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