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Old 12-08-2018, 06:17 PM
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Default My TEAC Disaster Has Me Weeping

I posted what's below on another forum, but wanted to share the details of such a terrible mis-adventure in the hopes that some of the members here might have some ideas or thoughts.

So here's the situation. I had my Teac X1000R in the shop for calibration last week. After the job was done I went to pick it up and paid the bill. Since I've been battling a bulging disc in my lower back, the service tech was kind enough to carry the deck to the back seat of my truck and laid it down on the seat. (Yeah, you can see where this is going). In all fairness to him, he asked me if that was OK. Although I knew better, I said yes. I figured it would be safe just because of the shear weight of the deck. So, as it goes, a total Nimrod pulled out directly in front of me on the way home forcing me to hit the brakes pretty hard. The forces of nature being what they are, the deck slid right of the seat and crashed onto the floor of the truck. Not a far distance, maybe a foot, but enough.

When I got the deck home I hooked it up. The unit played perfectly in the reverse direction, but in the forward direction the right channel was barely producing any movement on the VU meter. Also, the capstan motor would not supply enough hold voltage to keep the pinch roller engaged unless you first fast forwarded the tape for a second or too. To make matters worse, when fast forwarding through a tape, the stop button had no effect on stopping the tape.

I hauled the deck back to the tech. He did a few tests on it while I was there and then figured he'd need to tear down the unit since he was concerned that one of the control boards at the bottom of the deck had suffered damage.

I'm figuring that the deck is either toast, or the repair cost would not be worth the investment. So, maybe it's time to move on. Needless to say, I'm heart broken over this.

Since I already have a BR20 and an RT-707, I want either another X1000R or some other brand that offers bi-directional playback. Bi-directional recording is not so important, but I'll take it if the deck comes with it. Bi-directional functionality is paramount for this deck.

My first thought is an RT-909. I've always kind of wanted one, and there are a few available here and there. I also like the look of the Akai GX635D and 747, but I'm concerned about parts availability and the level of difficulty in having it serviced.

Perhaps some of the members that have experience with these decks could opine as to what I can expect if I move on one of them.

Thanks for the read (sorry it's a bit long) and any help is, as always, much appreciated.
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Old 12-08-2018, 08:01 PM
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I’m sorry to read about this tragic dilemma. I have occasionally placed audio gear on my car seat, but always use the seatbelt.
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Old 12-08-2018, 08:34 PM
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I’m sorry to read about this tragic dilemma. I have occasionally placed audio gear on my car seat, but always use the seatbelt.
Thanks Ivan, I knew against my better judgment that I should have stood it up on the floor and wedged it between the back and front seats. That's how I got it there, but I was in such discomfort the idea of moving it wasn't very appealing.
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Old 12-09-2018, 08:44 AM
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A bird in the hand......if the damage isn’t crazy bad, servicing what you have is a known adventure. Buying a vintage deck with uncertain provenance is always tricky. So unless you’re just tired of the X1000R you may be better off keeping it.

I’ve owned a 747 and found it to be an excellent performer. Don’t know anything about the Pioneer, or the care and feeding of these decks for that matter.

Enjoy the hunt!

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Old 12-29-2018, 10:42 PM
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Well, my Teac X1000R saga is finally over. I sent the deck up to Chicago to a genuinely qualified tape deck repair shop. As it turns out, the only thing that was wrong with it (actually multiple things) was the damage the utter Clown-A$$, that being my local tech, did to the deck. Just about every conceivable voltage was set incorrectly. It seems, the shot it took in the car had absolutely no detrimental effect on it.

The Chicago tech fixed it in 3 days and sent back a complete report on it. He told me he sees this kind of crap all the time. The deck is spinning right now and sounds fantastic! Dead silent operation and every element of it is spot on right.

Freddie is a happy camper tonight gents. Got the Makers 46 in the tumbler and Boz Scaggs crooning to me.

Life's Good.
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All's well that ends well. Enjoy your deck.
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Old 12-29-2018, 11:00 PM
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That’s really good news! I’m sure you’ll be staying away from your local “tech”.
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Old 12-29-2018, 11:15 PM
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Well that was a crap trip and issues ugg... as your story stated, glad you got her fixed the correct way. Wow what a bummer so sorry, but glad you were able to save it minus the extra $$$...
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Old 12-30-2018, 09:53 AM
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Freddie, I'm happy for you!
Happy New Year!
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Great outcome - happy listening Freddie.
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